Notices
2007 - 2014 Expedition & Navigator 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator

07 EB - "lumpy" idle after phaser lockout install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 21, 2015 | 09:14 PM
  #1  
uncleben03's Avatar
uncleben03
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Urbana, IA
07 EB - "lumpy" idle after phaser lockout install

I just installed the Livernois cam phaser lockout kit on my wife's 07 EB with about 140k miles. Solved the cam phaser rattling deal. But now, the motor has "lumpy" idle like it might be if there was a racing cam or something in it. There are no DCT's displayed at all. The way I understand how the variable timing worked was the VCT solenoids would regulate oil pressure to the cam phasers. It seems like with the lockout kit installed, a bad VCT would have no impact on timing anymore since the cam phasers are locked out. Am I thinking correctly on that? If not, should I look at VCT's? One of the codes that I had in the DTC history before I re-programmed the computer with the lockout kit tuner was P0345, camshaft position sensor bank 2. That code was cleared and is not present anymore. The motor runs perfectly normal with any amount of throttle applied.

Any thoughts?
 
Reply
Old Nov 22, 2015 | 01:54 AM
  #2  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Maybe your cams were broken in the more aggressive mode and you locked them in that way.?


How is your gas mileage?
 
Reply
Old Nov 28, 2015 | 08:54 PM
  #3  
uncleben03's Avatar
uncleben03
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Urbana, IA
After the lockout install it seems like the mileage has gone down about 1 MPG.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2015 | 12:10 AM
  #4  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by uncleben03
After the lockout install it seems like the mileage has gone down about 1 MPG.
If you aren't noticing any issues and can live with the 1 mpg drop, I wouldn't worry about it. I think I would enjoy the new sound too, probably too much. The 5.4 will likely always be my favorite gas V8. I really miss mine.
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:08 PM
  #5  
shawshank927's Avatar
shawshank927
New User
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
I just added the phasers to my lincoln navigator. I ordered the lock out kit from eBay but i didn't order the programmer. Now my check engine light is on. Can I pay to rent your programmer or do you know where I can purchase a programmer. you can email, text or call
emailblastatlanta@gmail.com or 678 995 3253 thanks
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:09 PM
  #6  
shawshank927's Avatar
shawshank927
New User
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Looking for a Phaser tuner

I just added the phasers to my lincoln navigator. I ordered the lock out kit from eBay but i didn't order the programmer. Now my check engine light is on. Can I pay to rent your programmer or do you know where I can purchase a programmer. you can email, text or call
emailblastatlanta@gmail.com or 678 995 3253 thanks
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
troy's66customcab
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
10
Mar 31, 2011 09:08 PM
shadow_almanza
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Jun 5, 2010 07:50 AM
03 Power Smoke
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Apr 21, 2008 09:40 AM
tallica2002
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Jan 30, 2006 10:16 PM
novadragman2005
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
4
Jan 10, 2005 12:51 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE