Front Coil Spring help
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I bet it would be cheaper at this point to bail on the 4" lifts. Maybe you can return them or sell them on ebay. Youre gonna need to lift the rear and get drop brackets for the front. Should do a pitman arm too. Then the tires are gonna look too small. Your fuel mileage will suffer some. Your truck will be that much harder to climb in and out of. It will be harder to load and unload. If you tow it wont work as well.
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I bet it would be cheaper at this point to bail on the 4" lifts. Maybe you can return them or sell them on ebay. Youre gonna need to lift the rear and get drop brackets for the front. Should do a pitman arm too. Then the tires are gonna look too small. Your fuel mileage will suffer some. Your truck will be that much harder to climb in and out of. It will be harder to load and unload. If you tow it wont work as well.
my main issue at the minute is just the tires not pointing straight by a long shot. I need to get that like asap so i can drive it. would it be the camber or what? what would be needed to fix it
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Man, 4" is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much in a TTB truck without suspension drop brackets. You will NOT get the alignment to work. Even 2" is a stretch, not all trucks can be aligned properly at 2", 4" isn't going to work.
Looks like the furthest a caster/camber bushing can correct a 4x4 is 3*. That's not very much. And it doesn't take into account whatever is already in the truck. BTW, nobody can tell you what camber bushings you would need, you have to get it on an alignment rack before anyone will know. Every single truck, and every single situation is unique.
Looks like the furthest a caster/camber bushing can correct a 4x4 is 3*. That's not very much. And it doesn't take into account whatever is already in the truck. BTW, nobody can tell you what camber bushings you would need, you have to get it on an alignment rack before anyone will know. Every single truck, and every single situation is unique.
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Not to throw another log on the fire but you mentioned that your tie rods were about shot. Doesn't make sense to me to get an alignment with bad parts. The guy will probably tell you he can't because of them. Just sayin'.
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Yes I will be putting new rods on before the alignment, would be stupid to waste all the money for an alignment with bad rods. I keep seeing people on here and on other sites say drop brackets, are you all talking about the TTB or the radius arm or both? Im trying to make a list to see exactly what i need to get this truck up and running asap. Probably should of gotten normal springs in the first place but cant take it back now
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If you still have the parts truck with the Rancho 4" lift on it,all the parts you need should be on it.Axle pivot drop brackets,radius arm drop brackets,drop pitman arm and extended front brake lines.If you need the truck ASAP,go back with some stock height springs and do the lift some other time.
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I prefer the fixed bushing over the adjustable ones. You can't know which ones you need until you check the alignment, then check to see what bushings are in the truck, then calculate the one you need. Even with the adjustable ones you need to go through the same procedure. You have to put them in in the right orientation. You can't adjust them once installed and they are nearly impossible to remove and reinstall without breaking them. The drop brackets alone will get your camber closer, maybe in spec if you're lucky. I suppose you could get the highest degree camber bushings available and install them and hope it turns out close, but you still need to set the toe in. I doubt that bushings alone would get it close though, and the geometry would be messed up until you get drop brackets.
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Thank you guys for all your help, this is a main reason why i choose to get another f150 instead of the dodge i was looking at ( even though it was more powerful ) the support here is amazing. I went out last night and looked at the parts truck i got and although i cant tell if it had the rancho springs as they are all rusted so i couldnt see the original color it did have all rancho shocks ( quad front ) and normal back, it also has extended radius arms and what looks like a drop bracket for them, Looked different then my stock so im assuming so. It also has the pitman arm drop and since it was dark and snowy last night i couldnt see the axle beams but since it has the others im sure it has those drop brackets as well. So my new goal is to transfer all that stuff onto mine and hope the camber gets back atleast close to spec, Good enough to get it to an alignment shop and have them throw in the bushings if they are still needed. another question i may have, My parts truck was dropped off in the backyard in grass, You think its safe to put some concrete blocks under the frame on the front end and leave it there for a few months? Just so i dont have to basically rebuild the front end on that as well, Im just concerned about it maybe falling over in the wind if thats possible
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Put some wood under the blocks to help stabilize them and keep them from sinking in the grass and you will be fine. Make sure the footprint of the wood is larger than the blocks. It will not blow over or shift unless you try to stack blocks. At that point it can become very unstable.
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Put some wood under the blocks to help stabilize them and keep them from sinking in the grass and you will be fine. Make sure the footprint of the wood is larger than the blocks. It will not blow over or shift unless you try to stack blocks. At that point it can become very unstable.
Great thanks, Ill grab maybe a sheet of 3/4 or 7/8 plywood and some cinder-blocks on the way home from work and get started i guess and see what ive got to work with, thanks
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