FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
Looks like the moment is nearing for assembly of the 446FE. So, I keep coming up with more questions.
1. Do the Edel heads have all the necessary mounting holes for A/C and power steering brackets?
2. The 352 in my 67 has an aftermarket A/C compressor. The 69 has power steering. Any chance these will mount to the same motor with the current brackets? I seem to recall a spacer on the power steering bracket that may allow room for a compressor bracket.
3. This stroker is coming to me balanced. I assume the balancer and flex-plate from my 390 are appropriate, no?
4. 10.5:1 CR , Am I going to kick myself later if I don't install a high-torque starter? Note- headers are ceramic coated, should help keep the starter cooler. Current starter is only about 1.5 years old, about 4000 miles.
1. Do the Edel heads have all the necessary mounting holes for A/C and power steering brackets?
2. The 352 in my 67 has an aftermarket A/C compressor. The 69 has power steering. Any chance these will mount to the same motor with the current brackets? I seem to recall a spacer on the power steering bracket that may allow room for a compressor bracket.
3. This stroker is coming to me balanced. I assume the balancer and flex-plate from my 390 are appropriate, no?
4. 10.5:1 CR , Am I going to kick myself later if I don't install a high-torque starter? Note- headers are ceramic coated, should help keep the starter cooler. Current starter is only about 1.5 years old, about 4000 miles.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
The difference I noticed on mine is that the AC bracket needs to have one of the holes widened out as the holes in the heads aren't exactly in the same location as the C8AE-H or D2TE-AA heads. I didn't end up using the AC as it was all worn out anyway so I went to the junkyard and picked up a bracket for a non AC truck for the power steering unit. It worked great.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
I can confirm that the PS bracket fits the Edelbrock heads nicely; I don't have AC so I can't speak to the AC bracket. The mounting holes on the heads are pretty shallow so you might have to shorten your bolts a little; I cut some spare SS ARP bolts to make it look nice. I don't know if you sprang for the Edelbrock water pump; I did have to cut my PS bracket a bit to work with the Ebock pump.
Your 390 flexplate and damper should be fine.
As for the starter: I was at the same crossroads building my 428CJ and decided to go for a Powermaster starter. If nothing else it sure looks nice. Most of the muscle cars were originally high compression and didn't need special starters so you're probably okay either way.
Your 390 flexplate and damper should be fine.
As for the starter: I was at the same crossroads building my 428CJ and decided to go for a Powermaster starter. If nothing else it sure looks nice. Most of the muscle cars were originally high compression and didn't need special starters so you're probably okay either way.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
Originally posted by gtex
Looks like the moment is nearing for assembly of the 446FE. So, I keep coming up with more questions.
3. This stroker is coming to me balanced. I assume the balancer and flex-plate from my 390 are appropriate, no?
Looks like the moment is nearing for assembly of the 446FE. So, I keep coming up with more questions.
3. This stroker is coming to me balanced. I assume the balancer and flex-plate from my 390 are appropriate, no?
On my 390, I even had the pressure plate for the clutch put on and balanced. The guy did the crank alone first, then added the balancer and flywheel, and then the clutch pressure plate. Amazingly smooth...
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
Originally posted by gtex
What do you reckon that would cost, for me to assemble everything and take to a machine shop and have it balanced?
What do you reckon that would cost, for me to assemble everything and take to a machine shop and have it balanced?
The guy who did the balancing had a complete 428SCJ on a dolly in the entrance to the building as a showpiece
ak
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
The stock AC on my 1969 truck fit the edlebrock heads with no problems what so ever. The only problem I had was with two bad edlebrock performer RPM manifolds.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
What was the problem with the intake? I've got one that I have been running and intend to use on this motor. I know when I last attempted the Ed heads, I found a few bolts were odd lengths.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
I had alignment problems due to incorrect machining by edlebrock. On the second manifold the valve cover rail was a 1/4" off from one side to the other. This was in late 2000. Hopefully their quality has improved since then.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
I think that it should not be assembled in order for it to be balanced. The balance shop has to match everything up. You just send them all the rotating pieces. Usually includes a ring set, con rod bearing set, all pistons, rods, crank, damper, flywheel, and pressure plate. My 428 is balanced and it is smoooooth!
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
Hi GTEX - seems like you're gonna have the real deal FE Stroker motor 4 sure!. You should check with Vintage Air down there in TX. They had all kinds of brackets, and mine seem to work fine. A good NAPA starter will work fine, but if putting together motor, both the CVR and Powermasters look trick & may outperform, I'd avoid the Tilton (couldn't get to fit with any of headers tried). I got a CVR to work with the FPA headers (glad to see you got them), but can't tell between it and the NAPA I was using. Keep us posted.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
My old 352 starter could easily turn over a 406 except when it was on a hot restart, then we had the slow crank scenario. In my experience, the Ford FE starters were very capable when connected to a good battery with properly sized (bigger than stock) cables.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
Gtex, IMO, get the high-torque mini starter. If for nothing else, for convenience. I don't know how much room you'll have with the FPA's, but I bought Hooker Comps for my 390 and they butt up right next to the stock starter. No room at all, and it was a major pain to get that starter on. Had to jack up the motor and finagle the starter and header on at the same time. Not easy, my friend! And to top it all off, now that it's all done, the stater's binding on the flywheel, so I gots to do it all again and probably shim it up. I ain't in no hurry to go through that again, but it looks like I'm gonna have to. Needless to say, the experience has left me a wishin' I'd have sprung for the mini starter. You gotta love those lessons learned the hard way!
BTW, good luck with that stroker. She oughtta be mighty mean! Can't wait to hear more about it.
BTW, good luck with that stroker. She oughtta be mighty mean! Can't wait to hear more about it.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
These Bozos still have not shipped the motor. I don't think anybody there actually knows whats going on. Every time I call I get a different story. Today's story is a real sad story. This particular engine shop is on vacation. They will ship it on Monday.
These folks have had my money (and a lot of it) since 4-28. It's not the time that frustrates me so much, it's the complete lack of communication or knowledge of my order. All I have recieved up until now was a set of 429/460 heads :-) They could not even get me the right off the shelf parts. Then they can't even get the Edel FE heads, so I had them credit my card and purchased them from Jeg's.
These folks have had my money (and a lot of it) since 4-28. It's not the time that frustrates me so much, it's the complete lack of communication or knowledge of my order. All I have recieved up until now was a set of 429/460 heads :-) They could not even get me the right off the shelf parts. Then they can't even get the Edel FE heads, so I had them credit my card and purchased them from Jeg's.
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FE Edel Heads, brackets ??
I just sent Flatlander a nasty-gram. They recieved my money and my order over 15 weeks ago.
I have requested a refund, unless they can demonstrate that the short block is built, provide me with a detailed build sheet and expedite shipping on Monday when the shop get's back from vacation.
At this point I cannot give a reccomendation to purchase from Flatlander despite their enticing web site.
Dissapointed in Texas :-(
I have requested a refund, unless they can demonstrate that the short block is built, provide me with a detailed build sheet and expedite shipping on Monday when the shop get's back from vacation.
At this point I cannot give a reccomendation to purchase from Flatlander despite their enticing web site.
Dissapointed in Texas :-(