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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 04:09 AM
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Only real propane pig is the furnace, next is water heater. Fridge is next to nothing.

Regarding whether or not you have auto change-over reg, unless it's a motor home (they only have the one tank), I have not seen any regulators on travel trailers or fivers that are not auto. Anybody actually have anything else?

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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 05:04 AM
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My old 96 chateau was not an auto change over.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 06:40 AM
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Really? What did the valve look like? Was there just a shut-off on each tank that fed to a tee, then a regulator? Marshall pretty well dominated the regulator industry all the way back into the 80s. I work on a lot of early 90s and still see auto-change overs. I wonder when they were introduced. I can't find it on the Internet.

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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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It was just a shut off for each that fed to a regulator.


Thor made the chateau trailer.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RV_Tech
Only real propane pig is the furnace, next is water heater. Fridge is next to nothing.

Regarding whether or not you have auto change-over reg, unless it's a motor home (they only have the one tank), I have not seen any regulators on travel trailers or fivers that are not auto. Anybody actually have anything else?

Steve
I have a 2008 Keystone Springdale 266RL that has a manual change over switch/valve. I prefer this method though because I would hate for both tanks to empty and then I would be left without any propane and have to refill very soon. We like to boondock, so having propane is essential and having the manual change over allows us to fill when we want to instead of when we need to.

My valve looks like the one in the picture below. If you have the handle to the left, propane from the left tank is on, to the right then the right tank is on, if the handle is vertical then both tanks are on. If you wanted the propane off completely, you have to crank down on the **** on the top of the tank.


 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RV_Tech
Only real propane pig is the furnace, next is water heater. Fridge is next to nothing.

Regarding whether or not you have auto change-over reg, unless it's a motor home (they only have the one tank), I have not seen any regulators on travel trailers or fivers that are not auto. Anybody actually have anything else?

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Steve, my 01 has the manual changover. It doesn't really matter to me that much, if I think the tank is low, I'll switch it over before I go to bed.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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I have a 2008 Keystone Springdale 266RL that has a manual change over switch/valve. I prefer this method though because I would hate for both tanks to empty and then I would be left without any propane and have to refill very soon. We like to boondock, so having propane is essential and having the manual change over allows us to fill when we want to instead of when we need to.

My valve looks like the one in the picture below. If you have the handle to the left, propane from the left tank is on, to the right then the right tank is on, if the handle is vertical then both tanks are on. If you wanted the propane off completely, you have to crank down on the **** on the top of the tank.


On a thread derail sidenote, Sous, we're going to be coming close to you tomorrow on the way to Clayton.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RV_Tech
Regarding whether or not you have auto change-over reg, unless it's a motor home (they only have the one tank), I have not seen any regulators on travel trailers or fivers that are not auto. Anybody actually have anything else?

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I'll be, ya learn something new every day (if a person is lucky) because that must mean mine is auto.

I always just switched it from left to right, never realizing it was an auto switcher.

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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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I have not seen any regulators on travel trailers or fivers that are not auto. Anybody actually have anything else?

Steve

My buddies 2013 StarCraft expandable has the manual valve like Sous posted. We were having some drinks and looking at tanks and talking about the auto changeover. Said the dealer told him it was auto...................apparently not.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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My buddies 2013 StarCraft expandable has the manual valve like Sous posted. We were having some drinks and looking at tanks and talking about the auto changeover. Said the dealer told him it was auto...................apparently not.
The picture Sous posted is of a Marshall auto-changeover regulator. It has been the standard of the RV industry for decades. It is listed in the catalog as a "Marshell Excelsior Excela-Flo Automatic Changeover Regulator 253 Series". If you go online, I am sure you can find a description of how it works.

If you can hook two tanks to the regulator it is a two-stage autochangeover regulator.

I just had to install one today on a Lance Truck camper. What a pain in the butt that was!

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Old Oct 8, 2015 | 12:15 AM
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I read the tag attached to the valve. its an auto change over. The 2005 coachman we had didn't have an auto change over. no switch to move it looked like one on a propane grill with two hoses. Not sure how I'll tackle this one. Might let it run in auto mode to see if it meets my expectations. as long as I only wind up having to fill one tank at a time I'm good with that. BTW I had one freeze up on me one time. Rental trailer back in the 80's. Temps dropped and it snowed on us. Couldn't get the propane to flow at all. packed up and drove down the mountain and it started working. If that were to ever happen again what would one do.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2015 | 02:23 AM
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Really? What did the valve look like? Was there just a shut-off on each tank that fed to a tee, then a regulator? Marshall pretty well dominated the regulator industry all the way back into the 80s. I work on a lot of early 90s and still see auto-change overs. I wonder when they were introduced. I can't find it on the Internet.

Steve
Here is your answer Steve

https://www.google.com/patents/US2316373
 
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Old Oct 8, 2015 | 03:40 AM
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I read the tag attached to the valve. its an auto change over. The 2005 coachman we had didn't have an auto change over. no switch to move it looked like one on a propane grill with two hoses. Not sure how I'll tackle this one. Might let it run in auto mode to see if it meets my expectations. as long as I only wind up having to fill one tank at a time I'm good with that. BTW I had one freeze up on me one time. Rental trailer back in the 80's. Temps dropped and it snowed on us. Couldn't get the propane to flow at all. packed up and drove down the mountain and it started working. If that were to ever happen again what would one do.
If it looks like the one on your propane grill it was a single stage regulator and was not designed to be used on an RV. Was your Coachmen by chance a fifth wheel with one tank on each side rather than both in the same bay? If the regulator is installed in the correct position so it vents downward, it should not freeze up.

The issue with extreme cold is you can only get propane out of the tank when it is very cold when the tanks are near full. With partially full tanks or tank, the liquid propane does not have enough surface area on the tank to gasify. Drive down the mountain, it gets warmer and once again it gases and flows. Cold weather camping mandates full tanks.

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Old Oct 8, 2015 | 03:43 AM
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Interesting. I knew it had to go back a long ways and I have never replaced anything but an auto changeover nor have I seen one listed in any of my catalogs.

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Old Oct 8, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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I find it strange that the picture I posted above (which is not the exact model of our regulator) has the selector switch and is still considered auto. This summer when we were out for 45 days in our travel trailer we had the selector to the passenger side tank and left it there. Toward the end of our trip, that tank ran dry and the regulator did not switch over automatically to the drivers side tank with the switch pointed the opposite way.

Although, now that I think about it the second tank on the drivers side was turned off at the valve on top of the tank. So you are saying the despite which way the regulator valve is set, it will still draw from both tanks if they are turned on via the screw valve on top of the tank?
 
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