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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 08:05 AM
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Hey, does anyone have any experience with this paint line? Xtreme 9000 Auto Finishes - Complete Single Stage System. The product info looks good, but product info is designed to sell the product. I live in the very hot south and would love to get away from the two stage clear coat system. It can't take the sun down here, and I'm looking to repaint my 1986 F150. This product looks promising, and they package everything you need in one kit for one price. I think it's either this or I go with Nason single stage finish, but this would fit my budget better.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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I see that it mentions a reducer/activator. You need to call the company and see what type of protection is required when spraying. There is no getting around it, if this is the good paint, it's the nasty stuff that requires a pressurized face mask. Some of this stuff can land you in the hospital with permanent lung damage so be careful.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 04:52 PM
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I've used Nason with good results.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 03:09 AM
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Thanks! I've seen that warning on some other paints. Nason is definitely one I'm considering.
 
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I got word back from the Xtreme 9000 people that all of their products are 4.3 or less VOC products. I'm thinking in a properly ventilated setting a NIOSH approved mask with organic vapor rated filters and prefilters such as the 3M 6001 would be sufficient. I used those for years spraying residential lacquer in new home construction with good results. They supply MSDS with the products when shipped, but they're not available as a .pdf download from their website. That's one thing I don't like. I'm used to being able to grab those documents from a paint supplier's website before I start a project.
 

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It's a urethane, I would be VERY careful using it without a supplied air respirator, full bunny suit, and ALL the other PPE.
Urethanes usually use isocyanates as a reactant/catalyst, and an organic vapor mask will NOT save you from cyanide.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Thanks. That's the kind of info I need. I'm used to being able to download MSDS sheets from paint company websites. That they only include them with purchased material causes me to be very cautious. As a D-I-Y guy, I need a solid, single stage product that I can use with something like a 3M 6001 filter system. That sends me back to Nason, I suppose, and even then I need to read everything very carefully. I think theirs is also a kind of urethane finish.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
I see that it mentions a reducer/activator. You need to call the company and see what type of protection is required when spraying. There is no getting around it, if this is the good paint, it's the nasty stuff that requires a pressurized face mask. Some of this stuff can land you in the hospital with permanent lung damage so be careful.
AGREED ! Respiratory Arrest Alert !
 
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Given all the safety hazards with urethane finishes I'm considering a waterborne finish like S-W AWX Performance Plus system. This line can be handled with a standard carbon-filter respirator, it appears. Thanks for the helpful advice and warnings.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 09:35 PM
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That water bourne SW paint is a base coat clear coat set up. You'll still have to use a urethane type clear coat because no one makes a water bourne clear.
 
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Thanks, Tuckahoe. We have a S-W auto paint distributor in Birmingham, so I'll see what they recommend. It's going to be a while before I get to this. I have time to research and plan carefully. I wonder if they'll honor my S-W paint contractor discount for automotive paints?
 
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