Potential First Time Powerstroke Owner
I'm on the fence still, but if all goes to plan, I'll own it by the end of next week. One of the first things I want to do, though, is get a bit of input from actual owners instead of local folks around here who have never owned one and want to bash the 6.0 for stuff they have only heard or read about. I know a couple local guys who own 6.0's and have had them since new and love them, but that's about all I know that own one. One guy is bone stock and the other has done some light modding.
I have lurked in the background as a guest and read quite a few threads about the 6.0 and figured it was time I just join and ask the questions I have. I am very particular about my trucks and maintenance and always do everything on time. The questions I have are:
1. With the truck being 9 years old and only having 42,XXX miles, should I purchase a SGII for when I go to look at it or should I take the dealers word that it is in perfect mechanical and cosmetic order? They are a high-end car dealer and I have developed a good relationship with the dealer in the last week talking to him about the truck. He has told me they were very thorough with their inspection on it and wouldn't have kept it if it had any issues at all. He also told me they put on 4 brand new tires and 2 new batteries since the batteries were still the originals.
2. I have read posts by people who have had great success with leaving their 6.0 bone stock and others who have done stuff to prevent issues in the future. Leaving the truck stock would be great by me, but is one way better than the other? Would I be better off doing the little mods to prevent any failures in the future (EGR delete, ARP studs, coolant filter, blue spring, etc)? If I were to go that route, would I need to tune the truck or would I be fine without one? I had a 2010 Cummins that would have required a tune once I got around to deleting it, but I had to sell before I could get to all that.
3. What are the factory recommended service intervals for the 6.0? Oil change, fuel filter, engine coolant, etc.
4. Lastly, I would appreciate any and all advice and input y'all would have for someone buying their first Powerstroke, like me. This truck would be my daily driver and would pull a 20x8 enclosed trailer 1-2x a week. Sometimes though I may go a week without pulling. Trips into work are about 10 miles one way. Beyond that, there may be some long road trips here and there and there may be some short trips around town, too. So, if anyone thinks I shouldn't own the truck, please tell me so. I want to hear all sides. Thank you in advance for any input and advice!
The EGR delete is always a good idea for longevity. I wouldn't do anything else unless it needed it.
I change my oil every 6 months now or 3k miles. Coolant flushes every 2 years as well as transmission flushes.
Just like buying any 6.0, I would recommend a SG2.
Now, I personally wouldn't buy that truck to run it back and forth 10 miles each way from work, you will have EGR problems and a coked up intake manifold.
Oh by the way, I bought mine new in '05 and have loved it ever since. In 10 years of ownership I have under $700 in repairs, including batteries. Mine has just over 67k on it.
1. Yes, a monitor af some sort is a great idea to assess the condition of the engine. Temps for oil and coolant and the difference between them, ICP and IPR to check the condition of the high pressure oil system, map/baro/EBP to look at the turbo and FICM power just to name the biggies. A ScanGauge works well but there are many capable phone apps and other monitors available for the home mechanic to use.
2. While the 2006 trucks wer built pretty solidly, there are some issues I would address if they haven't been done, including replacing the commonly failing STC fitting on the high pressure oil pump, revised designed standpipes and dummy plugs and revised oil supply and drain tubes for the turbo. Some optional things like a coolant filter and the EGR delete are good ideas but keep in mind the EGR delete will almost certainly set a fault code for low EGR flow and will require a tuner to turn off the check engine light. Head studs are a whole nother level of expense. While it's a great idea if the truck has an issue requiring cylinder head removal or if you plan to run hot tunes or tow hard and heavy, I personally wouldn't pull a good running engine down that far just to do some preventative work.
3. Recommended oil change is 7,500mi under normal conditions and 5,000mi for severe duty conditions. I think most of us do th severe duty schedule. After much discussion here about oil lab results and the importance of oil to proper operation of the injectors it's just good practice. I change fuel filters every othe oil change (10k mi) I believe the recommended interval is 15k but really, it depends on how clean the fuel you buy is. One bad tank of fuel and you 500mi filter may need to be changed. Ford gold coolant I believe is recommended 30k mi interval, same for the trans filter. Some of the new EC-1 rated coolant dare advertised to last much longer but given the low expense, I'd change even the new stuff on a 30k interval.
4. In the end, it depends on what you want really. The turbo does tend to have issues if the truck sits for long periods or does a lot of short trips but it not a terribly hard or expensive job to break it open and clean it up, especially if you're handy and willing to tackle it yourself. These are powerful and comfortable trucks whe they are working right and it sounds like you have the right attitude and a good idea about what it takes to keep one up.
Some unrelated thoughts:
Keep in mind this truck appears to be detailed within an inch of its life. Take a critical look at the coolant for contamination and color. No matter how it's been treated, it's still a 9 year old truck and rubber parts have a limited lifespan and plastic fares only slightly better. Even with the low miles, the rest of the fluids could use freshening up, differential oil, power steering fluid, brake fluid etc. it looks like a clean, highly optioned truck with lots of miles left in it. Nice paint color also, I haven't see many of those. Good luck however you decide.
I agree the price is pretty high, but the dealer has hinted to me that there is some wiggle room on their side. He also said the truck came in pretty much that clean and that the old man that traded it in is very particular about his vehicles. So hopefully that means he was that good about maintenance, also.
My short commutes to and from work worry me the most, also. I'm no expert mechanic, but I don't mind turning wrenches on the weekend. So, as long as I can see some kind of YouTube video that lets me see how it's done right, I can catch on pretty good and fix things myself.
Like I said, I am still on the fence and I still can't decide what to do. My Ram 1500 can handle the trailer loaded most the time, but there are times we have some loads that really concern me.
Thanks again!
The EGR delete is always a good idea for longevity. I wouldn't do anything else unless it needed it.
I change my oil every 6 months now or 3k miles. Coolant flushes every 2 years as well as transmission flushes.
Just like buying any 6.0, I would recommend a SG2.
Now, I personally wouldn't buy that truck to run it back and forth 10 miles each way from work, you will have EGR problems and a coked up intake manifold.
Oh by the way, I bought mine new in '05 and have loved it ever since. In 10 years of ownership I have under $700 in repairs, including batteries. Mine has just over 67k on it.
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