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Old Jun 21, 2015 | 10:20 PM
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Need help identifying possible Ford Rims

I am not restoring a Ford truck but a 45 ****** MB Jeep. I was told that the rims that came on the vehicle are Ford but I am curious that if they are Ford rims what time frame?

Three of the four rims have 3 rivets (12 total) that hold the rim center to the outside of the rim. The last rim is welded.

If anyone can supply me some info on them I would appreciate your help. I have no need for them but if they are old and would help someone else on a rebuild I would prefer to do that instead of letting the metal recycle people get them.











Here is a link to my Jeep rebuild if anyone is interested.

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Old Jun 22, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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I've seen those before but can't recall what they're off of.....
 
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The military and later civilian Jeeps differ from Ford wheels primarily because the Fords have hub cap nubs on the inner face surrounding the lug holes where the Jeep wheels have none. All have a 5 lug x 5.5" pattern. Neither Ford nor ****** appear to have produced their own military vehicle wheels. The 1942-1945 Ford 16" x 4.5" is number GPW 1015 which my references cross refer to Kelsey-Hayes number 25692. Later CJ2s are shown with ****** number 640800 which crosses to K-H 31394, again in 16 x 4.5" size. A 16" x 5.00" is also listed under ****** 643665/K-H 29998. The Ford wheel with "innie" hub cap nubs is K-H 31283/Ford 8C 1015. Frustratingly K-H numbers were not stamped into the metal anywhere per my references. Instead a paper tag was applied that is now long gone. But if I understand correctly K-H did stamp codes that some experts can read, perhaps through use of the Hollander Interchange books. On that I'm not well versed. I think you'll have to find a genuine Jeep historian to tell what rivet patterns were used for different eras. I can say that a welded center disc is an indicator for a much later wheel. Most likely 1960s or later my guess. Stu

Edit - looking again I see the "outie" hub cab nubs on one of your wheels. That is a much later wheel, probably F-100 origin, that isn't too rare. Stu
 
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Old Jun 23, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Thank you for the information. I thought if they were old I would try to get them to someone who needs them or doing a restore. I guess I'll take them to the used tire guy and see what I can get for them.

Thanks again,

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