does e4OD really suck that much power from the engine?
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Cargo Master
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From: Elyria, OH
I absolutely HATE this about this trans. Hate it. Truck sounds so good getting on it then you hit 4th and it just sounds like its bogging. Glad im not the only person with this problem...
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Cargo Master
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Some of the guys here have me fix their rigs. Theres 5 obs out here plus mine. They all ask me what im doing at bmw lol. I love these old tanks. I still prefer my 96 f250 with cam and gt40 heads because of the sound and 5spd trans over my 6.0. Its clean and turns heads. I get a lot of questions about it. I worked my way through a lot of problems and with the help of this site, have learned a lot! My first post here i didnt know the difference between a 4bbl and a c6. Read over that thread the other day and was like wow... that kid was an idiot lol
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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I hate to add snow to the rain I already threw on your parade, but in my opinion the pan is the WORST place you could put the temperature sensor. The pan is always the coolest spot in the transmission. That's the reading you're going to get, and if the bung is in a spot where there isn't much fluid movement you'll get a reading that doesn't hardly correspond to what's actually going on in the transmission.
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Cargo Master
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My plan was to use the port on the driver side of the trans for the temp gauge. Then i was going to use a temporary gauge in the fitted port and compare the two to see what the difference was. Then i was going to make a decision on what temp the fan on my aux cooler would come on and figure out the proper temp difference between the two spots.
Maybe i can find a 3 or 4 wire temp sensor/switch and use that in the trans port....
Maybe i can find a 3 or 4 wire temp sensor/switch and use that in the trans port....
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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You'd be better off triggering the fan off the temperature in the line to the cooler. That's a much different temperature than the pressure port or the pan. It can be A LOT hotter than either of those.
Cargo Master
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From: South Central,MO
I hate to add snow to the rain I already threw on your parade, but in my opinion the pan is the WORST place you could put the temperature sensor. The pan is always the coolest spot in the transmission. That's the reading you're going to get, and if the bung is in a spot where there isn't much fluid movement you'll get a reading that doesn't hardly correspond to what's actually going on in the transmission.
I already have a temp gauge installed now. It has been there for a couple of years now. It reads the temp at the inlet of the cooler on the radiator.
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Cargo Master
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From: Elyria, OH
This is the cooler I got
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HDA-526/?rtype=10
I plan on getting this for the fan. It comes on at 180 and shuts off at 165.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13021
ill be getting this for my temp gauge
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/da...FYJAaQod5kUA1g
Sound good?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HDA-526/?rtype=10
I plan on getting this for the fan. It comes on at 180 and shuts off at 165.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13021
ill be getting this for my temp gauge
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/da...FYJAaQod5kUA1g
Sound good?
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Cargo Master
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From: South Central,MO
Instead of the line tap for the temp gauge, this has served well for me. Simple trip to the hardware store for a 1/4" tee and done.
I like the cooler and the temp switch setup. That should work nicely.
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Cargo Master
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I didnt even think about doing it that way. It looks clean and a lot cheaper. Thanks bud. Ill do it that way.
Hopefully that fitting will come out for me. May end up replacing the lines when im installing all of these. Not sure if they are going to break when i go to remove them
Hopefully that fitting will come out for me. May end up replacing the lines when im installing all of these. Not sure if they are going to break when i go to remove them
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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I am in the process on building a triple gauge pod just for my transmission. A pressure gauge, a temp gauge labeled "converter temp" reading the temp coming out of the trans going to the cooler, and a temp gauge labeled "trans temp" that I was planning on putting the sender in the pan, but if you say that is a poor place for it, what would you suggest?
I already have a temp gauge installed now. It has been there for a couple of years now. It reads the temp at the inlet of the cooler on the radiator.
I already have a temp gauge installed now. It has been there for a couple of years now. It reads the temp at the inlet of the cooler on the radiator.
This is the cooler I got
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HDA-526/?rtype=10
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HDA-526/?rtype=10
Cargo Master
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From: South Central,MO
Thank you for that. Is there an alternate port I can place the pressure sender at?
Fleet Owner
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From: Mi'kma'ki
6.oh no coolers are overkill for the E4OD.if your doing something that requires an aux cooler that large,then your far surpassing the rating of your pre super duty truck.
the 4R100 guys in the SD sections love them because the 4R100 doesn't flow the high volume the E4OD does when it's converter locks.
if your just daily driving,or lightly working your pickup,you don't even need an aux cooler.the E4OD cools extremely well.especially the '95+ with the high volume pumps.
the 4R100 guys in the SD sections love them because the 4R100 doesn't flow the high volume the E4OD does when it's converter locks.
if your just daily driving,or lightly working your pickup,you don't even need an aux cooler.the E4OD cools extremely well.especially the '95+ with the high volume pumps.
Postmaster
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From: SW Florida
I hate to add snow to the rain I already threw on your parade, but in my opinion the pan is the WORST place you could put the temperature sensor. The pan is always the coolest spot in the transmission. That's the reading you're going to get, and if the bung is in a spot where there isn't much fluid movement you'll get a reading that doesn't hardly correspond to what's actually going on in the transmission.
When I'm working the truck hard the trans oil temp will climb until it settles within 2 or 3 degrees of the water temp which I'm also reading from the EEC.