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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:23 AM
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Hey Overkill

I need new tires on my 350. I'm currently running 38-15.50-16.5 Super Swamper TSL radials and they have always been loud as h3ll. I'm considering the Super Swamper STS like you have on your Excursion. My question is how do they compare to my TSL's with regards to road noise and wet pavement? Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Hey Overkill

Originally posted by 1BadF-350
I need new tires on my 350. I'm currently running 38-15.50-16.5 Super Swamper TSL radials and they have always been loud as h3ll. I'm considering the Super Swamper STS like you have on your Excursion.
I have several customers on STSs now and although they are very quiet and smooth, the biggest complaint I'm getting is you won't get much milage out of them. Some of the hotdogs are wasting them in 8000 mi.! The rubber compound is really soft so I'm not surprised. Honestly I would recommend looking into some PJ 38s. We've had nothing but great results with these.

My question is how do they compare to my TSL's with regards to road noise and wet pavement? Thanks.
Wet pavement? The only time my X rolls over wet pavement is when it gets washed.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Hey Overkill

Even the radials are wearing out in 8000 miles? Are the PJ's quiet? I was also looking at the swamper ssr.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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1BadF-350,

Yup, even the radials (in the 38s at least). The PJs are surprisingly quiet for such an aggressive tread and balance very well. I would say that they are the best 38 I've used (the new Toyo MT could be better yet but only available in 18s). I've sold several sets of SSRs as well but had balancing problems and they don't appear to offer much milage either. IMO, the PJs are worth the extra $$.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Hey Overkill

Ok PJ's it is then. Thanks Overkill.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Hey Overkill

how are the 38 SSR's??
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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Hey Overkill

Well seein as how the noise never bothered me I had Thornbirds on the old 76' (the best snow and plow tires I ever owned) but only got 15k out of them. I wanna get a set of the ssr radials and hope they last a lil longer, and by the way are do you use them as swampers or street swampers????
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:54 AM
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Hey Overkill

Keep in mind that the 38" PJ's are a bit bigger than the 38" swampers.

If your rubbing (even a little) with the Swampers, you'll rub a lot more with the PJ's.
(Saying this because you list only 6" of lift)
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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No Kehale. No rubbing at all because I trimmed the fenders just a bit. I'd like to get a leveling kit as well.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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...and by the way are do you use them as swampers or street swampers????
What do you mean by that?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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Hey Overkill

Do you use them as Swampers, i.e. mud, trail running, beach, snow, off roading. Or are they street Swampers, meaning all they see is tar.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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Hey Overkill

Originally posted by bigblue250
Do you use them as Swampers, i.e. mud, trail running, beach, snow, off roading. Or are they street Swampers, meaning all they see is tar.
They've seen snow sand mud and trails. It's also my daily driver. I'd rather have a decent on road performance and sacrafice a bit in off-road performance. i hear the Dirt grips are a great all around tire.
In the event you are trying to set me up for a "pavement pounder" or "trailor queen" comment, I would advise against it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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Hey Overkill

I like the PJs....would like to run their 38" tires on my truck in the future.

FWIW, I dug out an old Four Wheeler that had a tire test with the PJs. They give ratings with a thumbs up.....five being the best and one being the worst.

Here is what the PJs got:

Mud:

Rocks:

Sand:

Street:
 
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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Hey Overkill

Nope, I know better than saying that before I meet the person and the truck. I was just askin If you see more street or dirt. My old 76' sees all dirt and beach in the summer and pushes snow in the winter. I think I am gonna get a set of PJ's for my Jeep.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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Hey Overkill

Ok just checking. A friend of mine has 38-15.50-16.5 OJ's on his Hummer H1. He likes them alot and recommended them highly. He said he's gotten 40,000 miles out of them so far but he'll need some new ones in a couple months. Pretty good considering how much a H1 weighs. He said you have to pay close attention to air pressure and rotate them on a regular basis.
 
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