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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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I'm looking at buying some Swamper Tires for my 86 F-150. I'm looking at either the LTB's in the 31-11.50-15 or the TSL in 32-9.50-16 or the TSL Radial in 32-10.50-15. They are going to bu used when i mud drag or when it gets real nasty in the winter, or (when if ever) it rains. I have a good set of cheap m/t tires to use other wise. Just wondering which one you guys would reccomend. thanks for all the help.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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super swampers=major $$$. i got my mud tires, 31 inch dunlop mud terrains for about 450 for all 4 mounted and everything at Sams CLub here in charlotte. try some of the discount tire places or chain stores if you are geting something that you arent going to use much, like just in the mud and in the snow. the lesser brands will be a lot better on the wallet and usually will work just as good than the big names, which mostly sell just for the name, which you will pay for.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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I would go with the 32-10.5-15 TSl radials. They can be driven safely on the road because they are radials and they will work with your stock rims. I'm looking at getting a set of 33-10.5-15's myself. let me know how the tires work out
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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ok I'll let you know if i go with the radials, but i'm thinking that the LTB's wouldn't be to bad because they should be around $110 or so haven't got the real prices yet form the tire dealer. If the radial is not much more i'll go with it.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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If you are serious about going through nasty places Interco makes the best tires for what they were built for and are worth every penny, no name selling going on. A street tire they are not...If you are going to be using them on the highway quite a bit I would go with the radial. The LTB's will wear quickly and tend to chunk more than some. The TSL will wear pretty quick also if driven on the road much.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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If you are going to be driving a lot on the street (more than 60% of the time) then you are definately going to want Radials. And dont expect them to last more than 25K-30K miles.

Have you checked into Dunlop Mud Rovers? My friend has 32x11.50x15 on his Toyota, and they hook up like crazy in Mud and Snow!

 
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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The Yokohama Geolander AT/II's are nice too. Not too pricey either, and their ratings are really good.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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ive seen 31*10*15 or someting like that Dunlops for about 100$ a piece.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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I just romped the snot out of my TSl Radials last night. I can whole heartedly say that no dunlop or geolander is gonna go in the mud like these evil monsters.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=17405
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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I was sayin the Geolanders if it's mostly highway as far as a radial. The 33" Geolanders are $130 each I think..
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Romer, soory I didn't mean to sound like I was blasting you. I'll give the Geo's and the Dunlaps better performance on the highway, but he said he is using them for mud drags and nasty stuff. He said he has another set for daily driving.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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If you can afford and fit them, Ground Hawgs (which are good in mud and snow) or Boggers (have not owned a pair - heard not so good in snow). I don't think they make the Hawgs in small sizes anymore.

Since this is a off road tire mainly for mud, check out a bias tire. The reason being is if you poke a hole in a bias tire off road you can usually repair it with a mushroom plug, no matter where the hole is for at least off road use. Not so for a radial. Plus, if you are going where there are roots and thorns, the shoulder/bulge on a radial tire can really get torn up and sliced and you can junk all four tires on the vehicle. Been there, done that.

Until I got to GA, I did not realize what real mud is. Living up north it was dirt mixed with water that was soupy. It really is orange GA clay that sticks to your tire and can get you stuck in two inches of mud until you spin it off. In which case you (and me) need a directional tire with large tread voids.

Some decent mud treads here:
http://www.high-tec-retreading.com/index.html
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Until I got to GA, I did not realize what real mud is. Living up north it was dirt mixed with water that was soupy. It really is orange GA clay that sticks to your tire and can get you stuck in two inches of mud until you spin it off. In which case you (and me) need a directional tire with large tread voids.
Check out the gallery if you want to see what it looks like mudding in GA. I was out Saturday night and spent about 6 hours cleaning on Sunday. Gotta love the clay. Oh and the crap turns your tires blue. Don't know what's up with that. First time I saw it I freaked thinking my tires were gonna stay blue.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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No problem BFR, I didn't think you were blasting me, I was just gettin out some more info on them.

We have some semi-real mud here. Just depends on where you're at.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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I think the LTBs would be your best bet. They are more designed for off road then the TSLs only because they are only avalible in bias ply(best in mud), and the large out side lug is bigger and placed further out then on the tsl. A tsl radial will be around $15-30 a tire more than a 31x11.50x15 LTB for $100.

Also radials aren't as good off road, because of the steel belts which don't flex to the ground when aired down like the bias ply would which of coarse would give you better traction.
 
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