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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Quick question on blue spring

I currently have a blue spring that I installed on my early 04, but my buddy has an 05 and I was mentioning it to him. I'm curious with the year change did the factory install a blue spring in later years? Or did it come with the weaker spring in all years?
I searched a bunch but no answer, thanks!
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:35 PM
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Not necessarily, my 05 just got one last year, so I would recomend doing it to be on the safe side.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:36 PM
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I tried tracking this down once using searches of previous posts and found the very first mention of a "blue spring" to be well after the last 6.0's were put in the E-Series in 2008 if I remember right. Previously, there was mention of a mod where a "BB" pellet was put in with the spring to increase pressure and before that some savvy Techs would pull the spring out and stretch it a bit which could help for a while but didn't last. I don't think any production 6.0's had a blue spring.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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My '07 had a bad original FP spring in it, ~35-40psig at WOT when I put a gauge on it around 50k miles. Blue Spring went in as fast as the brown truck could bring it to me. 43k miles and it's holding 62psig correctly just like the first day it went in.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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And you can call me foolish but, I won't trust a 15,000 buck motor to a 2 cent BB. Pony up and get the right part. jmho.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:54 PM
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Okay that answer I gathered, it wasn't in production of the trucks. I hope this thread helps some one out trying to search for the question.
Thanks guys. Btw I love mine. A nice seat of the pants boost. But the real benefit is protecting those expensive injectors.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 06:53 PM
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And you can call me foolish but, I won't trust a 15,000 buck motor to a 2 cent BB. Pony up and get the right part. jmho.
I agree. It would seem to me the BB could restrict flow and the correct part is too inexpensive to make it worth the gamble.
 
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Old May 29, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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As best I remember this was a stopgap measure until the blue spring mod came out.
I remember doing the stretch the spring thing but it did not last very long.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyboy950
As best I remember this was a stopgap measure until the blue spring mod came out. I remember doing the stretch the spring thing but it did not last very long.
It was a 7.3 thing back in the early days of performance enhancement. I remember it well...

Then clay came out with the FRX and that fad quickly faded.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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The BB only increases the stock spring tension and has no effect on flow. It's a common technique to adjust oil pressure on an engine with a non adjustable relief valve.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jsm180
The BB only increases the stock spring tension and has no effect on flow. It's a common technique to adjust oil pressure on an engine with a non adjustable relief valve.
As I stated before "not on my engine"
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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Back in the early days of the 6.0 the BB was the only real way to increase fuel pressure, but I agree that doing the blue spring or going to an independent regulator is a much better way.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Back in the day of my 7.3L I came up with grinding down a 4-40 Allen head screw to a specific size to increase the tension on the fuel spring. I've got a pictorial about it in my Facebook albums. It was a very consistent boost tested with out data acquisition equipment, and was more consistent then the BB trick. It worked with the 6.0L too.

Shimming a spring like that is done by machinists when they need to adjust valve spring tension as long as the spring does not achieve coil bind. Stretching a spring never works out long time as you are breaking the molecular bonds in the metal to get it to that length, so there is less integrity in the metal and it fatigues to a shorter length over time.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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The thing I can never understand is people will buy the complete kit and only change the spring.
 
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Old May 30, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyboy950
The thing I can never understand is people will buy the complete kit and only change the spring.
Yup -- I think mainly 'cause folks don't know there's a leaner kit available...?

This is the one I'm talking about:

Ford Fuel Pressure Regulator Blue Spring Kit - Riffraff Diesel Performance
 
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