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Laughing Gas
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OK, tried to tow my camper home. First hill = overheat. Would not cool off. Fan seems to be increasing and decreasing with temp, somewhat. Its brand new and there are no DTCs present.
Also, there is a ton of pressure in the cooling system after some light towing. I think it blew a head gasket.
Also, there is a ton of pressure in the cooling system after some light towing. I think it blew a head gasket.
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Laughing Gas
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It is overheating. I can hear the coolant boiling in the radiator. It gets to 200-205 unloaded now, whereas a week ago, tops 195. I did not hear the fan turn on today when I towed home (overheated again and had to call a friend to tow trailer home). When I monitor it, the fastest it will go is 440 even with engine at 3000 rpm. When temp reached 238, fan was still off, coasting at 400 when engine was at 1500-2000 rpm. There is no DTCs again and my deltas are within 5 and climb with the coolant to 240. I don't have any puking of coolant, only boiling when I remove the cap when its close to overheating. This fan clutch is new but I've never heard it turn on.
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Is the fan harness ok
The fan clutch should be kicking in at your ECT
You should hear the fan no problem at that temp even traveling at 65 you should hear it
Time to troubleshoot that fan clutch
I think you can ground a wire and make it lock in been awhile and there's better ways to trouble shoot it
Oh ya it's was a way for guys to lock in fan clutch it was a mod but shire you could check rpm and lock In this way in a pinch
The fan clutch should be kicking in at your ECT
You should hear the fan no problem at that temp even traveling at 65 you should hear it
Time to troubleshoot that fan clutch
I think you can ground a wire and make it lock in been awhile and there's better ways to trouble shoot it
Oh ya it's was a way for guys to lock in fan clutch it was a mod but shire you could check rpm and lock In this way in a pinch
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Laughing Gas
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Is the fan harness ok
The fan clutch should be kicking in at your ECT
You should hear the fan no problem at that temp even traveling at 65 you should hear it
Time to troubleshoot that fan clutch
I think you can ground a wire and make it lock in been awhile and there's better ways to trouble shoot it
Oh ya it's was a way for guys to lock in fan clutch it was a mod but shire you could check rpm and lock In this way in a pinch
The fan clutch should be kicking in at your ECT
You should hear the fan no problem at that temp even traveling at 65 you should hear it
Time to troubleshoot that fan clutch
I think you can ground a wire and make it lock in been awhile and there's better ways to trouble shoot it
Oh ya it's was a way for guys to lock in fan clutch it was a mod but shire you could check rpm and lock In this way in a pinch
There seems to viscous fluid on the fan blades. Im not quite sure it it's from the fan clutch, but its a sticky substance that is evenly spread on all of the fan blades. It wasn't there last week as I just had the radiator out to give me more room to change the STC fitting and oil cooler.
Also, I get no smoke, no indication of anything failing or anything else. In the last two weeks I have replaced/updated/rebuilt the following;
Fan Clutch
EGR Valve
Accessory belt
Alternator
Oil cooler
STC Fitting
Turbo VGT cleaning/rebuild w/new bearings and seals
Batteries (Factory Motorcraft)
Positive Battery cable assembly
ELC coolant
Coolant Filter
Rotella T6 5w40 w/motorcraft filter
ICP sensor
IPR Valve
Thermostat (twice)
My deltas are in, even with high temps. I get no DTCs or anything else other than the fan only reaching 440 rpm at 3000 rpm.
Is there a "fan duty cycle" PID I could monitor with Torque or Scangauge? I have both.
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Laughing Gas
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Got it back from the dealer today. The new fan clutch is bad, but here's the funny part.
They said the electrical side of the fan clutch worked perfectly and would actuate as it should, however, there was no silicone left in it. It was stored improperly allowing the silicone to compromise the case seal, and when it actuated the first time, the seal ruptured and it leaked all of the silicone out.
The tech went into the store room and checked how all of the other clutches are being stored. All boxes were vertical instead of horizontal. All are now considered bad.
I did some research and found a rebuilder that remanufactures these clutches. "Torqflo" clutches have a lifetime warranty and are priced similar to the motorcraft unit, so I purchased one. First impression, its definitely packaged better than the motorcraft unit and has a much sturdier connector bracket. I'll check back when its installed.
They said the electrical side of the fan clutch worked perfectly and would actuate as it should, however, there was no silicone left in it. It was stored improperly allowing the silicone to compromise the case seal, and when it actuated the first time, the seal ruptured and it leaked all of the silicone out.
The tech went into the store room and checked how all of the other clutches are being stored. All boxes were vertical instead of horizontal. All are now considered bad.
I did some research and found a rebuilder that remanufactures these clutches. "Torqflo" clutches have a lifetime warranty and are priced similar to the motorcraft unit, so I purchased one. First impression, its definitely packaged better than the motorcraft unit and has a much sturdier connector bracket. I'll check back when its installed.
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Laughing Gas
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New fan clutch fixed it, but I have some interesting news about the unit I purchased.
Ford is selling remanufactured fan clutches. I bought an Autozone fan clutch for $270 with a lifetime warranty. I opened it up and to my amazement, its the exact same unit for is selling, down to the ink dots. There is literally no difference. My original fan clutch has the part number and "visctronic" mechanically etched into the case. The last new clutch I got from ford had an ink printed part number and ink printed "visctronic" label. My Autozone unit is exactly the same, but for much less money and a better warranty.
Ford is selling remanufactured fan clutches. I bought an Autozone fan clutch for $270 with a lifetime warranty. I opened it up and to my amazement, its the exact same unit for is selling, down to the ink dots. There is literally no difference. My original fan clutch has the part number and "visctronic" mechanically etched into the case. The last new clutch I got from ford had an ink printed part number and ink printed "visctronic" label. My Autozone unit is exactly the same, but for much less money and a better warranty.
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