Swap/build advice needed.
The truck had a rough life before I got it. The previous owner ran it with a gooseneck hitch pulling a horse trailer, quite often. It had some ignition problems when I got it and would quit for no reason, I checked a few things out and determined the PIP sensor was losing signal, so I replaced it, and all was good, then a week or so later it lost at least one cylinder, and wouldn't stay running. I determined the compression on #5 had dropped too low to support combustion and the rest weren't far behind. I was expecting it to crap out on me, and had looked into rebuilding the 302 in it, but after poking around on this site I decided a 5.8 would be a more suitable replacement.
Keep in mind this truck may pull a tractor (7000lb) four times a year,for less than 100mi round trip, and other than that be driven back and forth to work, and some moderate off road use, but this is what I have come up with for a rebuild (feel free to critique my choices):
1)Complete 5.8 out of a 1996 F-250, rebuilt with any necessary machine work.
2) GT40 heads (non p) from a 1996 exploder
3) Comp 35-512-8 cam with Comp recommended valve springs
4) Pacesetter long tube headers with a custom 3" single exhaust, haven't decided on muffler yet, either no cat or aftermarket free flow cat
5) Oregon performance transmission high perf. rebuild kit +sure cure shift kit
6) Pioneer FRA205 flex plate
I'm in need of some advice on my engine rebuild kit though, on summit's website they only show one kit for the 5.8 in that year range, but in the Haynes manual the only differences in the crank/rods/pistons is a .003" difference in piston to bore clearance between pre and post 1991 engines, and a .008" difference in ring end gap between pre and post 1993 engines. Does anyone know if a pre 1991 efi 5.8 rebuild kit, or even earlier bottom end kit will work? From the numbers I don't see where it wouldn't. I have found kits that say they fit from northern auto parts and RPM machine, but they don't specify what type of pistons are included, and I'm not really confident in the quality of the parts they will send, so if anyone has experience with these kits please chime in. I'm not on a bare bones budget, but I would like to keep costs as low as I can and still be reliable. Thanks to Conanski for his wealth of knowledge that's already out there and thanks in advance to everyone else for the advice!
Things on the build changed a little since I decided to get back into motorcycles in the middle of the build, but it came out good anyway. I cut the plans for long tubes and went back with manifolds.I also shelved the plans for the transmission rebuild because if it ain't broke don't fix it. The air pump was no longer needed, so it and all 9 miles of associated tubing took a trip to the landfill. This created the issue of finding a proper belt to run the more necessary accesories, which actually only took three trips to the parts house. If you route the belt as follows, a 966k6 will do the job: from the crank, go straight to the alt. Then from the alt. hit the tensioner, then to the a/c, p/s, over the w/p and back to the crank.
966k6 belt routing
In lieu of headers I had to figure out what to do with my exhaust, so I lengthened the stock y-pipe to fit the wider block, gutted the pre-cat and put the stock cat in the same location as the air-pump.
Just as a side note, a 3/8 inch npt pipe tap cuts nice threads in the stock air injection tube.
After the pre cat I ran 3 inch pipe back to a dynomax pro-flo ss muffler, then out the passenger side before the axle.
Everything started up easy and ran in good, but when I tried to drive it, it stumbled and would barely run under load, once stopped it ran great, so I played around under the hood and anytime I touched the dizzy it fell on its face, so I pulled the codes and it gave me a pip circuit failure code, so I inspected it again and determined the dizzy needed replacement, so 60 bucks later it had a new distributor and was running like a champ.
On the maiden voyage to the gas pumps, it shifted really funny, and the TCIL lamp went to flashing, so I got it back home, pulled the codes, and behold, the dreaded 628 came up. So I read a bunch of forums, wrung my hands, gnashed my teeth, and climbed back under the truck to pull the tranny, but before I yanked it completely out I decided to inspect fluid condition and see how many spare parts were being stored in the trans pan. The fluid looked really good, and once the pan was down, there wasn't anything concerning in it, when I dropped the filter the problem jumped out at me, literally... the guts of the tcc solenoid fell out of the solenoid body. At this point my local napa has a new tcc solenoid en route and I will change it out tomorrow and see how it goes.
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What I have noticed is running long tube headers is nice for power gains....But when it comes time to removing the starter...Unbolting and cutting the passenger side exhaust is going to have to happen
I also have noticed is my transmission is running about 20 degrees warmer running true duel exhaust down each side....I'm currently running a cheap Haydens Transmission Oil Cooler along with the OEM style 2 core radiator.
The plans for today:
To do some measuring of the front radiator space to see what size aftermarket transmission and engine oil cooler I can rig up. I think the transmission lines are 5/16" Looks like most style coolers are either 1/2", 6AN, 7AN, 8AN ect... style fittings. I'll have to get adapter fittings to rig up to some rubber hose and clamp it down.
Thought I would just throw all that down so others would know what they have to look forward to.
I also have noticed is my transmission is running about 20 degrees warmer running true duel exhaust down each side....I'm currently running a cheap Haydens Transmission Oil Cooler along with the OEM style 2 core radiator.






