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I watched an interesting program today featuring races with "Sport Compacts". Teams made up of modified Nissons faced teams driving Hondas. Some of the Nissons were making close to 300 HP and the Hondas around 175 HP to the wheels - any mods except slicks were allowed and all had to be street machines. The twisting course favored handling over raw power and the Hondas won by only 1.5 seconds overall. Those little cars are very quick and I can see why the kids like them.
Dono
Being a teenager, I'll be 18 in September, I am surrounded by the sport compact scene. I live in Jacksonville, Fl...a Navy town full of asians. This, along with the inexpensive cars and, is what I believe makes them so popular. Kids can buy them cheap and their parents will buy them not knowing what the kids intend to do w/them. They spend $2000 on a Honda and them work it up. Then, they can "go fast" with low insurance while pleasing their parents by not opting for that Mustang or Camaro.
There is nothing wrong with sport compacts, if they are fast. But I believe that most people dislike the "ricers" because they only look fast, but are infact slow. If done right those little cars can be very fast. but it takes more money than an american V8 car. But to have the speed and gas mileage....well I can only dream of having those with my truck.
Why do they make their exaughst systems god awful loud? Sounds like a wrapped out chainsaw. At least my straight piped diesel has a good tone and power to warrant that sound. But they can go as fast as they want. They'll just go under my truck, OOPS, SPEED BUMP!
have you guys ever raced ricers in your pickups? Because my dad smoked one in his F250. The little car was in the right lane and right after the red light the right lane ended. So he was rolling back and forth and eeking slowly forward. Dad punched it when it turned green and smoked the little turd.
Considering the guidelines of this forum I will need to be very careful what I say here.
The majority of the people that own these cars seem to be lacking any mental ability. Just because your car has several hundred pounds of fiberglass junk attached to it and stickers all over the place and an exhaust system that sounds like you drank the water in Mexico doesn't mean it's OK to drive like an idiot. Ripping up the freeway at 80MPH and swerving across 3 lanes of traffic right in front of me only shows me that you're stupid, not that your car is cool.
Back in the pre-ricer days when the small car of choice was the VW bug, I had an irritating little punk that lived across the street from my girlfriend. He had spent tons of money on his bug, and thought it was the fastest thing on 4 wheels (sound familiar?). Well, after telling him I would race him for pink slips any day and him refusing, I finally got my chance. He pulled up behind me on a long stretch of open, flat road. I heard him down shift and pull over to pass me. I dropped the hammer of my little ol' 289 and left him in a cloud of Mustang tire smoke. He never opened his mouth again.
I see these clowns every day--the dorks who think a 3' wing & 5" fart cannon makes a 100HP economy car fast. My favorite encounter was in my wife's diesel K-5 Blazer (putt...putt) with a guy in a revolting coral-pink 4-door Accord. Here's what happened (copied from where I posted it originally 6 months ago):
I went shopping a while ago--taking the K-Blazer diesel. I was on a 4-lane road, with a stoplight about every damn 100 yards, listening to cool tunes, when I heard (over a 6.2 diesel, closed windows, & Mellencamp's "Pink Houses") a horrid combination: a fart cannon & rap. NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I checked my right spot mirror: OH DAMN, this thing is nasty! It was a revolting coral-pink-colored Accord sedan. It was slammed with cut springs (not level, bad camber), had an enormous wing, a uniwiper (also pink), a bodykit, & still had stock black steel wheels! Well, he started flooring it away from all the lights, & revving at me (apparantly mistaking the K-5's clattering idle for a tweaked engine). Finally, the last straw: He threw a cigarette pack at me (what is it with ricers & throwing stuff?!). Well, I'll fix him.........
At the next light, he was behind an S-15 Jimmy, I was first at the light. Hmmm. I pulled up enough to align my right-rear wheel with his left-front wheel, put the trans in neutral, & revved the 6.2 a few times. For those unfamiliar with non-turbo 6.2 Detroits, a no-load rev results in a nice black cloud. He didn't stay on that road long.
I couldn't exactly beat him in that thing...but I did SMOKE him!
You have to pay the price to truly have speed, ricers attempt to buy a cheap POS 4 cylinder, slap on a cold air intake, a fart pipe, and a stereo and think they can take the 5.0... quit tryin' to run with the men, and go back to the go-kart leagues.
I had a ricer guy tell me that his 80's something Toyota can hit 150 mph. So I asked him "if he was he going down a hill in neutral" he replied "yea, so what's your point"
Really I don't have a problem with level headed ricers, you know the ones that are fully aware that their car is more about looks than performance.
we have a park with a huge paved straitaway that is about 30 feet wide and mabye a mile long...this ECLIPSE wanted to race my 72 f-250 (the one in the gallery) i said ok and he pulled up next to me . his friend that was flagging said "you guys ready" he said "no let me warm it up" revved his engine that sounded like a sick lawnmower so i decided to drown it out with the ol 390 that sounded like REAL muscle. well, it wasnt a race i beat him by 3 car lengths,,,and of course it had nos stickers and PRO STREET all over it and i leveled him with a 72 ford
I hope none of you ever try to take my son in his "ricer". He would smoke all of you. But then he really doesn't have a std "ricer" accord with a fart cannon. He has an 86 Mitsubishi Starion with a 300+HP 2.6L intercooled turbo in a car that handles very well (no stickers). All you would hear is a bellow, smell some tire smoke, and see a dot in front of you! -hehe
We had a troll on the integra club forum when I was a member that had a Talon that liked to make fun of our cars because of how expensive it was to make them have power and his talon was fast for really cheap.
Bah.
Depends on what you want the car for, like the s2000 is kinda fun...but I'd much rather have a mustang anyday.
Now I might rather have a used NSX but thats another class of car.
I had an argument with a guy at work the other day about how stupid the 4cyl "hot rods" sound (my old one wasn't bad by rice standards but I'd much rather have an old stang, or even an old trans am with a 455 for that matter) he was argueing the "whine" was the greatest sound ever...I just stood there with my mouth hanging open...I couldn't figure out how he would possibly be able to say that a big block sounded like crud with a lopey idle?!?
I think when he got his eyebrow earing all his brains/common sense fell out the hole before they put the hoop in. heh. I hope no one on here is full of piercings and doesn't find me funny
Originally posted by Jarlaxle At the next light, he was behind an S-15 Jimmy, I was first at the light. Hmmm. I pulled up enough to align my right-rear wheel with his left-front wheel, put the trans in neutral, & revved the 6.2 a few times. For those unfamiliar with non-turbo 6.2 Detroits, a no-load rev results in a nice black cloud. He didn't stay on that road long
I like smoking ricer's too. My 300 I6 with the M5OD tranny and 3.08's doesn't exactly make it the speediest thing on the road. I thank the Ford engineer's that put my exhaust outlet on the right side pointing outward at the usual hieght of a ricer's window. So far I have gotton 2 ricer's to roll up his windows because he can't take the smell of my truck.