Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Proposed 400 build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 08:31 PM
  #1  
DirtyLarry's Avatar
DirtyLarry
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Proposed 400 build

Hi, Really pondering rebuilding the engine in my 79 crew. Now I have a 400 with a edelbrock 4 barrel, and a weiand 8010 intake. The old girl is getting to the end of her rope and I'm gonna rebuild within the next couple years. What I'm having trouble deciding on is whether to find another 400 and build it (the truck is my dd so spending as little time in the shop is a good thing) or find a 4.9 and build it. What I'd really like is 300hp/400lbtq. I realize that isn't really doable with the average 300 build so I could settle for 200hp/300lbtq. That's what my 400 is rated at now but I don't think it's making that much. Its wore out, kind of a dog. I can't get it to even rev to 4 grand. Have to push it to around 3 grand just to climb a couple hills around my house. Doesn't feel like it's running very well.

My question is, could I make the 300hp/400lbtq out of the 400 relatively easily, reliably, get around 11-13 mpg and at a low enough rpm to be easy to tow with?
I'm ok with having heads cleaned, better vavles installed, new cam, higher comp ratio Pistons, and such. How reliable will it be? How long until I have to rebuild it? (Assuming I built it with quality components). What kind of mpg could I expect? And finally, will rpms be low enough to be able to get into the torque curve easily without having to ring it out?

I'm ok with 200hp/300lbtq number I could get out of the 300, the mpg would be awesome too, and at a low rpm that I could haul with and still hear my own thoughts? That would be great with me. But Id need a bellhousing adapter, new radiator, engine mounts, etc. but if I could get more power, easier, for ok mileage with the 6.6 that would work to. What do you all think?
 
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:41 PM
  #2  
SlikWillie's Avatar
SlikWillie
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,264
Likes: 1,330
From: Pryor, OK
I would stick with the same size engine the truck came with, simply for cost effectiveness, plus as they say there is no replacement for displacement. Pick up a jy 400 and take your time with the rebuild on that. Have a machine shop work the block and heads. Get a rebuilt kit with new pistons, a Comp Cam 268H cam kit that comes with gear set and valve springs, a set of headers, and use the intake and carb you have. You will be around the 300hp/400tq you are looking for. To help with the mpg, look into a 3g alt and an electric fan. I did my alt and efan for less than $100 with very noticeable power gains and better mpg.
 
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:50 PM
  #3  
Jdeshler's Avatar
Jdeshler
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 32
I agree on finding a decent junkyard 400 and having it built while you drive your truck.. Then you have the leisure of dropping it in when its best for you..

And yes, the 400's make very good power with a few upgrades
 
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:49 AM
  #4  
DirtyLarry's Avatar
DirtyLarry
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
I was definitely gonna find a jy engine and build it (although id rather have the original block in the truck but oh well). But what kind of mileage could I expect with a light foot? What about longevity? I don't want another 9 mpg engine, especially if I'm gonna have to rebuild it in 100,000 miles.
 
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:25 AM
  #5  
Jdeshler's Avatar
Jdeshler
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 32
Well the 9mpg issue comes in with your right foot as well

At least with you rebuilding the junkyard motor you can our your 400 up and get it back under the hood later
 
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:22 AM
  #6  
SlikWillie's Avatar
SlikWillie
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,264
Likes: 1,330
From: Pryor, OK
Numbers matching in a 1969 Mustang Boss 429 is important. Numbers matching in a dent side, not really important at all. I wouldn't worry about that. I dd my '78 with a cam, intake, and carb and get 11 to 12mpg with a 4" lift and 33s. I just installed the efan, so i expect that to go up a little. And I am still running exhaust manifolds with a single 2 1/2" pipe, for now.
 
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:52 PM
  #7  
hivoltj's Avatar
hivoltj
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,600
Likes: 64
From: Billings, MT
Compression ratio is critical to get the Hp up. Tmeyer pistons if you can still get them or aussie Cleveland heads. I got a pair of aussie heads from a buddy so I went that route. Comp xe262 cam on paper is better than the 268 but I had the 268 in a previous motor and liked it. A 600 cfm vacuum secondary holley is a good fit for a dd and headers and a good exhaust is a must to round it out.

I'm expecting around 350 hp and 450 tq from my build. Link is in my signature if you want to read up...
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DirtyLarry
335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland
9
Mar 31, 2016 09:55 PM
alexh_123
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Apr 9, 2012 07:15 PM
Zeronomore
Engine Swaps
10
Jul 27, 2010 07:38 PM
A_Poxx
335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland
21
Oct 26, 2006 02:42 PM
Fusion
335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland
4
Mar 12, 2003 10:36 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:56 PM.

story-0
10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

Slideshow: 10 Fords to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-22 14:29:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

The latest Expedition is quite popular, but it certainly isn't perfect.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-22 14:23:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-4
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-6
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE