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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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You have two lines to the vacuum advance? Interesting.
I've heard of that setup, but never seen it. From what I've heard, one of them only comes on when you fire up the truck and actually retards the timing (the lower the timing, the easier it is to start). This allows you to run more advance.
Forgot to comment on this. I only have one vacuum port on the advance dashpot. There are two vacuum lines that end up combining to one at the distro. One line is full manifold vacuum with a checkvalve and the other is straight ported. I think it's set up for the manifold vacuum to be blocked by the check valve except when the ported vacuum kicks in it will then pull open the check valve allowing full manifold vacuum to pull on the advance. Maybe the ported source isn't strong enough by itself so it needs a supplemental manifold vacuum that only comes in once the ported opens up. At any rate, this was another one of those "don't try to out think the engineers" moments for me.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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Speaking of which, I just read this on a post over on FSB when someone asked about the ported vacuum switch (the 4 port thing on the thermostat).

The PVS valve is a temperature sensing valve found on the distributor vacuum advance line, and is installed in the coolant outlet elbow. During prolonged periods of idle, or any other situation which causes engine operating temperatures to be higher than normal, the valve, which under normal conditions simply connects the vacuum advance diaphragm to its vacuum source within the carburetor, closes the normal source vacuum port and engages an alternate source vacuum port. This alternate source is from the intake manifold which, under idle conditions, maintains a high vacuum. This increase in vacuum supply to the distributor diaphragm advances the timing, increasing the idle speed. The increase in idle speed causes a directly proportional increase in the operation of the cooling system. When the engine has cooled sufficiently, the vacuum supply is returned to its normal source, the carburetor.
Explains what the PVS does, and why you have two lines running to your distributor.

I still have my ported vacuum switch just sitting there on mine, I wonder if I could rig that back up.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2015 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AbandonedBronco
Speaking of which, I just read this on a post over on FSB when someone asked about the ported vacuum switch (the 4 port thing on the thermostat).



Explains what the PVS does, and why you have two lines running to your distributor.

I still have my ported vacuum switch just sitting there on mine, I wonder if I could rig that back up.
That's an interesting theory, however according to my vacuum diagram, neither of the lines going to the distro pass through the VCV. Maybe in some years they did and that makes a lot of sense, the whole point of the ported vacuum advance (ie. none) is to have the idle run hotter for better idle emissions.
 
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Ah, true. I hadn't looked back at your vacuum diagram before posting that.

I think that the V8s, from what I remember from working on my brother's 351, has more than one of those ported vacuum switches. They're usually 3 prong too.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 10:04 PM
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Ended up throwing a newly rebuilt carb from National Carbs on it. Made a huge difference, the stalling issue is gone. Unfortunately, now that I have a fully functioning carb, my other weaknesses are starting to show. Getting dead spots on partial throttle, likely due to the disconnected/faulty EGR valve. Have a new one en route, should be here Monday. Also replacing the cap, rotor, wires and plugs while I'm at it. Going to convert to a GM HEI ign module and TFI coil for good measure. All vacuum lines have been replaced and tested for leaks with the carb cleaner trick. I was having some off idle stumbling and dieseling, likely due to the EGR (in part) but this morning I removed the ported vacuum line to the distro and instead running straight manifold vacuum without check valve. Holy cow, this thing likes the extra timing, had to play with the base to find a happy spot without surging or pinging. When the EGR goes back in I'll need to start all over...but that's ok. This truck is easy as pie to work on if you understand the basics.
 
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Awesome on the carburetor. That has to feel good.
Sounds like you're really getting that thing running tip top.
And yes, it's all one big congruent system, so as you fix some things, the weaknesses of other parts will become more apparent.

Keep us posted on the HEI, I'll be curious how that goes.
 
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