Abandoned?
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Canada may be different but it sounds like you're confusing the registration with the title. The registration slip may be pink, but the title certificate is what conveys actual ownership. Usually a fancy looking document with scrolled engraving, etc. Do you have this?
Insurance can be tricky. Your current company will look askance at this. No matter how ridiculous it sounds they may look at this as a potential liability you left uninsured for 20 years. What if the landowners drove your truck and caused a bad accident? You're (or were) the registered owner, with no insurance, "abandoned it" etc. just sayin'.
Insurance can be tricky. Your current company will look askance at this. No matter how ridiculous it sounds they may look at this as a potential liability you left uninsured for 20 years. What if the landowners drove your truck and caused a bad accident? You're (or were) the registered owner, with no insurance, "abandoned it" etc. just sayin'.
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Canada may be different but it sounds like you're confusing the registration with the title. The registration slip may be pink, but the title certificate is what conveys actual ownership. Usually a fancy looking document with scrolled engraving, etc. Do you have this?
Insurance can be tricky. Your current company will look askance at this. No matter how ridiculous it sounds they may look at this as a potential liability you left uninsured for 20 years. What if the landowners drove your truck and caused a bad accident? You're (or were) the registered owner, with no insurance, "abandoned it" etc. just sayin'.
Insurance can be tricky. Your current company will look askance at this. No matter how ridiculous it sounds they may look at this as a potential liability you left uninsured for 20 years. What if the landowners drove your truck and caused a bad accident? You're (or were) the registered owner, with no insurance, "abandoned it" etc. just sayin'.
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From: THIS IS SPARTA!, ...Mo.
At my shop, if you leave something for 90 DAYS, you'll be getting a registered letter in the mail stating I intend to file for an abandoned title. 60 days after that, it's mine. If you get it back, you're dang lucky.
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From: Calgary
If you get the truck back your going to need proof of insurance on the truck before you get your plates at the registry. When you talk to insurance be careful of your story, tell it wrong and your vehicle inspection will be immediate instead of within a year. I deal with Blue Circle in Calgary, they gave me a retired guy named Doug who does inspections, haven't need one in 2 years so I don't know if he's still alive but if he is I got his # still. I'd have swallowed the truck and would be telling you "too bad kid stop snoozing and learn how to wake up in the morning not at noon". But that's only because there are times and situations where I enjoy being a DICK.
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Let me preface this by saying that I'm a cop in Pennsylvania, and that's quite different than Canada...that being said here it goes.
In this state, abandoned vehicles are defined and governed by our Vehicle Code, so maybe start there but with the Canadian version. A vehicle is considered abandoned after only 24 hours on private property and the owner can have the vehicle towed away to a licensed Salvor. The Salvor can then after a set amount of days file for an abandoned title and take legal ownership of your vehicle if you do not respond and make payments for their storage fees. We deal with it all the time.
It's unlikely to me that the owner of the current property would have any legal claim to your vehicle in a manner similar to what I just described since it's still sitting on his property, but you really would want to know what the real estate contract says too. Why the heck would he leave an abandoned truck on his property for 20 years?
PS - That is completely insane that you can sell a car in Canada by scribbling on the back of the registration. Surprised the previous owner didn't fake that already and steal you're ride. It's been 20 years, afterall.
In this state, abandoned vehicles are defined and governed by our Vehicle Code, so maybe start there but with the Canadian version. A vehicle is considered abandoned after only 24 hours on private property and the owner can have the vehicle towed away to a licensed Salvor. The Salvor can then after a set amount of days file for an abandoned title and take legal ownership of your vehicle if you do not respond and make payments for their storage fees. We deal with it all the time.
It's unlikely to me that the owner of the current property would have any legal claim to your vehicle in a manner similar to what I just described since it's still sitting on his property, but you really would want to know what the real estate contract says too. Why the heck would he leave an abandoned truck on his property for 20 years?
PS - That is completely insane that you can sell a car in Canada by scribbling on the back of the registration. Surprised the previous owner didn't fake that already and steal you're ride. It's been 20 years, afterall.
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You list Saskatchewan as your address, means out of province inspection ie end to end inspection and everything has to be fixed before it goes on the road, needs to be inspected after repairs are done. Property owner didn't register truck for same reason parents left it behind full of junk, at best it's a yard truck for new property owner. Us older posters with 17 to 23 year old irresponsible kids or have dealt with them know the parents history with the truck, another reason it got left behind.
Burnthelight88 is that a Jeff Heally thing, if it is Cool.
If your serious about an old truck Brad, buy one that runs and is registered in Saskatchewan and NO, water mellons are not meant to be used as helmets. LOL
Burnthelight88 is that a Jeff Heally thing, if it is Cool.
If your serious about an old truck Brad, buy one that runs and is registered in Saskatchewan and NO, water mellons are not meant to be used as helmets. LOL
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From: Vermont
Slightly off the original question but here in Vermont any vehicle 15 years & older does NOT need a title. Only a bill of sale from the seller. The buyer goes to Vt. Motor Vehicle and registration is issued. 15 days to get a state inspection of the road worthiness at a garage/shop that does the inspections. Obviously you don't need a state inspection if you are working on the rig for a year or two but once on the road being driven, it only has or HAD that 15 day grace period once registered w/license plates.Gary
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You list Saskatchewan as your address, means out of province inspection ie end to end inspection and everything has to be fixed before it goes on the road, needs to be inspected after repairs are done.
If your serious about an old truck Brad, buy one that runs and is registered in Saskatchewan and NO, water mellons are not meant to be used as helmets. LOL
If your serious about an old truck Brad, buy one that runs and is registered in Saskatchewan and NO, water mellons are not meant to be used as helmets. LOL
I am a Rider fan thru and thru but I don't even get the watermelon helmet thing. Lol!
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I agree it nuts but I sold a vehicle a couple of years ago, 96 Escort, and I had a bill of sale all drawn up with wording to the effect of no implied warranty, as is where is, not responsible for unknown maintenance problems etc. etc. the buyer only had about half an hour to get the plates so I let her drive the vehicle with my plates on, ( risky I know ) and at the SGI office I took my plate off she bought her insurance and plates and put them on. The SGI worker only wanted to see the pink registration slip with my signature on the back, effectively providing them with consent to the sale. She didn't even care about my "bill of sale".
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From: Knoxville, TN
Procedurally, that's really not much different from how a title is signed over here. It's just that for us, titles and registration are separate: title is about ownership, while registration/license plates are about legally driving it on public roads. You have to have the former to do the latter, but don't have to do the latter if you don't want to drive it on the street.
So, instead of signing our registration over, we sign our title over in the same way - there's a form on the back to sign and the new buyer turns it in to the local office to get it in his name (and pay applicable sales taxes). Then he also has to separately do the registration (often at the same office) to get license plates and make it street-legal. Some states also require inspections and/or proof of insurance for that; others don't.
So, instead of signing our registration over, we sign our title over in the same way - there's a form on the back to sign and the new buyer turns it in to the local office to get it in his name (and pay applicable sales taxes). Then he also has to separately do the registration (often at the same office) to get license plates and make it street-legal. Some states also require inspections and/or proof of insurance for that; others don't.
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INAL, but if I were in your situation...
I'd sit down and write them a nice handwritten letter, no email, not typed... handwritten. Explain the situation clearly, brief history etc and why you are now wanting the truck again. BE ABSOLUTELY HONEST, personal, and make it heartfelt/sincere. And finally, OFFER to pay them a reasonable sum and don't ask them to do any of the work. I wouldn't mention anything about the law, statutes, or possession, or rights etc. 1st round out of the box should appeal to them as one human being to another and I think this your best bet to get it back. If you are nice enough, or sincere enough, and if they aren't total a*hats, they could very well just tell you to come get it and not worry about the payment. Then you win twice. Taking the legal angle right off the bat is a sure fire way to make sure they will becomes a*hats if they already aren't.
I'd sit down and write them a nice handwritten letter, no email, not typed... handwritten. Explain the situation clearly, brief history etc and why you are now wanting the truck again. BE ABSOLUTELY HONEST, personal, and make it heartfelt/sincere. And finally, OFFER to pay them a reasonable sum and don't ask them to do any of the work. I wouldn't mention anything about the law, statutes, or possession, or rights etc. 1st round out of the box should appeal to them as one human being to another and I think this your best bet to get it back. If you are nice enough, or sincere enough, and if they aren't total a*hats, they could very well just tell you to come get it and not worry about the payment. Then you win twice. Taking the legal angle right off the bat is a sure fire way to make sure they will becomes a*hats if they already aren't.
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