mounting a winch
Cargo Master
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Sacramento Area
OH...yea, no way it would have been big enough without removing the seats. The idea was to be able to hold a rifle case in one of the drawers, and two drawers to be able to use it as a command post when we deploy...
Idea would be to run that mounting track along the top wood surface, bolted through, then strap the winch down using that. Track bolted to frame, frame bolted to base and truck...should be somewhat safe in a wreck, but I wouldn't carry it around daily unless deployed...would be a fuel drain I don't need and take up space where the wife would want to fill with - stuff.
Idea would be to run that mounting track along the top wood surface, bolted through, then strap the winch down using that. Track bolted to frame, frame bolted to base and truck...should be somewhat safe in a wreck, but I wouldn't carry it around daily unless deployed...would be a fuel drain I don't need and take up space where the wife would want to fill with - stuff.
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2015
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OH...yea, no way it would have been big enough without removing the seats. The idea was to be able to hold a rifle case in one of the drawers, and two drawers to be able to use it as a command post when we deploy...
Idea would be to run that mounting track along the top wood surface, bolted through, then strap the winch down using that. Track bolted to frame, frame bolted to base and truck...should be somewhat safe in a wreck, but I wouldn't carry it around daily unless deployed...would be a fuel drain I don't need and take up space where the wife would want to fill with - stuff.
Idea would be to run that mounting track along the top wood surface, bolted through, then strap the winch down using that. Track bolted to frame, frame bolted to base and truck...should be somewhat safe in a wreck, but I wouldn't carry it around daily unless deployed...would be a fuel drain I don't need and take up space where the wife would want to fill with - stuff.
You made a nice setup!
It looks like it will work well for years.
I like those gun vaults but really have a valid reason for one or the room. You look to have saved a ton of money as well.
Lead Driver
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,250
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From: West Virginia
You have a pto on your excursion? Did you swap in a truck transmission or what?
Ptos are great for commercial use. Use the engine power. Can pull all day. High speed, too. Not my first choice for stuck truck use because on most transmission ptos, you can't engage the pto with the truck in drive, which means your can't spin the tires during recovery to assist the recovery. I also have serious doubts about the ability to run a pto shaft from the transmission to the front bumper on an excursion. They are a tight squeeze in older trucks with way more room. The excursion just doesn't have anywhere for the shaft to go.
If you're dead set on using the pto you could run a pto hydraulic pump and a hydraulic winch. Expensive and a lot of work unless it's something you're gonna use nearly every day or you're using to make money.
For occasional stuck truck or sliding logs around, it's hard to beat the ease of install and low price of an electric winch. And they work great for those type of things.
Ptos are great for commercial use. Use the engine power. Can pull all day. High speed, too. Not my first choice for stuck truck use because on most transmission ptos, you can't engage the pto with the truck in drive, which means your can't spin the tires during recovery to assist the recovery. I also have serious doubts about the ability to run a pto shaft from the transmission to the front bumper on an excursion. They are a tight squeeze in older trucks with way more room. The excursion just doesn't have anywhere for the shaft to go.
If you're dead set on using the pto you could run a pto hydraulic pump and a hydraulic winch. Expensive and a lot of work unless it's something you're gonna use nearly every day or you're using to make money.
For occasional stuck truck or sliding logs around, it's hard to beat the ease of install and low price of an electric winch. And they work great for those type of things.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 974
Likes: 5
From: FLA
Since my bumper is painted and rusty at the bottom I am just going to make my own winch mount. I looked up the parts.
Warn 76256 Trans4mer Grille Guard - Black $718
WARN 29394 Trans4mer Winch Carrier $135
I can buy a whole lot of steel for $850.
Warn 76256 Trans4mer Grille Guard - Black $718
WARN 29394 Trans4mer Winch Carrier $135
I can buy a whole lot of steel for $850.
Lead Driver
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,250
Likes: 10
From: West Virginia
The fab fours winch mount is a little cheaper. Not saying this is a good seller or price. But thus is at least what it looks like.http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=221391734402&alt=web
Apparently fab fours will sell them directly for 470 with free shipping.
Will always he cheapest to make you own of course.
Apparently fab fours will sell them directly for 470 with free shipping.
Will always he cheapest to make you own of course.
New User
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
You have a pto on your excursion? Did you swap in a truck transmission or what?
Ptos are great for commercial use. Use the engine power. Can pull all day. High speed, too. Not my first choice for stuck truck use because on most transmission ptos, you can't engage the pto with the truck in drive, which means your can't spin the tires during recovery to assist the recovery. I also have serious doubts about the ability to run a pto shaft from the transmission to the front bumper on an excursion. They are a tight squeeze in older trucks with way more room. The excursion just doesn't have anywhere for the shaft to go.
If you're dead set on using the pto you could run a pto hydraulic pump and a hydraulic winch. Expensive and a lot of work unless it's something you're gonna use nearly every day or you're using to make money.
For occasional stuck truck or sliding logs around, it's hard to beat the ease of install and low price of an electric winch. And they work great for those type of things.
Ptos are great for commercial use. Use the engine power. Can pull all day. High speed, too. Not my first choice for stuck truck use because on most transmission ptos, you can't engage the pto with the truck in drive, which means your can't spin the tires during recovery to assist the recovery. I also have serious doubts about the ability to run a pto shaft from the transmission to the front bumper on an excursion. They are a tight squeeze in older trucks with way more room. The excursion just doesn't have anywhere for the shaft to go.
If you're dead set on using the pto you could run a pto hydraulic pump and a hydraulic winch. Expensive and a lot of work unless it's something you're gonna use nearly every day or you're using to make money.
For occasional stuck truck or sliding logs around, it's hard to beat the ease of install and low price of an electric winch. And they work great for those type of things.
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: West tennessee
Will the fab fours mount shown fit the excursion? I emailed them about it last year and they said they did not know as they had never tried to mount one an ex. If it will fit I'll probably buy one. Pretty budget friendly.
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Laughing Gas
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 974
Likes: 5
From: FLA
The fab fours winch mount is a little cheaper. Not saying this is a good seller or price. But thus is at least what it looks like.http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...734402&alt=web
Apparently fab fours will sell them directly for 470 with free shipping.
Will always he cheapest to make you own of course.
Apparently fab fours will sell them directly for 470 with free shipping.
Will always he cheapest to make you own of course.
Lead Driver
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,250
Likes: 10
From: West Virginia
The tow hooks bolt on with three big *** bolts. I'd think you could use some 1/2" steel plate cut to about 4" wide by 8 or 10" long rectangular brackets, drill it out to the pattern of the tow hooks, and remove the tow hooks and bolt it in place, then weld or bolt your winch mount to that. If you bolt it on, drill the 1/2 plate on both ends and then run grade 8 hardware through the bottom plate of your winch mount, through the 1/2 plate brackets, and back into the factory tow hooks so you can retain them.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 974
Likes: 5
From: FLA
The tow hooks bolt on with three big *** bolts. I'd think you could use some 1/2" steel plate cut to about 4" wide by 8 or 10" long rectangular brackets, drill it out to the pattern of the tow hooks, and remove the tow hooks and bolt it in place, then weld or bolt your winch mount to that. If you bolt it on, drill the 1/2 plate on both ends and then run grade 8 hardware through the bottom plate of your winch mount, through the 1/2 plate brackets, and back into the factory tow hooks so you can retain them.