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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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another no start problem

So I have yet another no start issue my truck is a 2006 f250 I have replaced in the last six months 6 incjtors all the dumby plugs and both standpipes and the ICP. Stopped at the gas station today cam e out and the truck won't start. I don't have my gauge with me so I don't know what numbers I am puttion out. My question is will a ballon test help me to figure out if I have a bad injector o ring and if so which side its on. Also will an air test tell me if my o ring is bad? Thanks for the help guys
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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So I have yet another no start issue my truck is a 2006 f250 I have replaced in the last six months 6 incjtors all the dumby plugs and both standpipes and the ICP. Stopped at the gas station today cam e out and the truck won't start. I don't have my gauge with me so I don't know what numbers I am puttion out. My question is will a ballon test help me to figure out if I have a bad injector o ring and if so which side its on. Also will an air test tell me if my o ring is bad? Thanks for the help guys
A bubble test will help confirm you have combustion gases entering the fuel supply and a balloon test can help you narrow down which side its on. Start with a bubble test, remove the secondary fuel filter and crank the engine over as shown in this video, if you do have bubbles you can narrow the side down by disconnecting the fuel line for either side and see if the bubbles stop. Once you figure out which side is the problem you can remove 1 glow plug at a time and repeat the test until you either don't have bubbles in the filter housing, all this will tell you is if you have a bad copper washer or an injector that is hanging open.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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So I have yet another no start issue my truck is a 2006 f250 I have replaced in the last six months 6 incjtors all the dumby plugs and both standpipes and the ICP. Stopped at the gas station today cam e out and the truck won't start. I don't have my gauge with me so I don't know what numbers I am puttion out. My question is will a ballon test help me to figure out if I have a bad injector o ring and if so which side its on. Also will an air test tell me if my o ring is bad? Thanks for the help guys
After thinking about this, once you figure out which side has the problem you would want to remove all but one of the glow plugs on that side and repeat the test, if you don't have bubbles install the next glow plug and repeat, if you come to one that produces bubbles remove that glow plug and move on to the next. You didn't mention if you had replaced the STC fitting, that can cause a hot no start, I suspect your problem is HPO related and not fuel.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 03:58 PM
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I do have a new stc fitting as well about 6 months old
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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So if I am understanding right I do the bubble test determine which side is the problem. Remove all but one of the plugs crank it no bubbles install the next plug crank it once I see bubbles after that installing a plug that is the bad injector. Move to confirm no other ones are bad
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 04:44 PM
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So if I am understanding right I do the bubble test determine which side is the problem. Remove all but one of the plugs crank it no bubbles install the next plug crank it once I see bubbles after that installing a plug that is the bad injector. Move to confirm no other ones are bad how hard is it to remove a glow plug
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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So if I am understanding right I do the bubble test determine which side is the problem. Remove all but one of the plugs crank it no bubbles install the next plug crank it once I see bubbles after that installing a plug that is the bad injector. Move to confirm no other ones are bad
Yes, but before you go that far remove the secondary fuel filter and with the cap and filter removed crank the engine over as shown in the video and watch the fuel filter housing for bubbles, if you get no bubbles then the injectors and or copper washers are not the problem, if you get bubbles disconnect the fuel line going to one head and repeat the test if you get bubbles the head with the fuel line still connected has a problem, reconnect the fuel line and disconnect the other fuel line and repeat the test to see if you have problems on both sides.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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So after a long day waiting on tow truck first truck that came out was not big enough to take my truck. Well I final get home I do the bubble test and no bubbles. So I do an air test I hearbair coming out of the passenger side valve cover I then applied 12 v to the IPR to command it to close and I still hear air coming out of the passenger valve cover. OK cool I know where to start but I also hear a hissing coming from the fuel filter cover. Is that hiss something to be concerned with? My next step is to pull the valve cover and then do another air test. I am pretty sure o know which injector is leaking the first one closeest to the front of the truck. I think that's the last one on the passenger side to replace.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:04 AM
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So after a long day waiting on tow truck first truck that came out was not big enough to take my truck. Well I final get home I do the bubble test and no bubbles. So I do an air test I hearbair coming out of the passenger side valve cover I then applied 12 v to the IPR to command it to close and I still hear air coming out of the passenger valve cover. OK cool I know where to start but I also hear a hissing coming from the fuel filter cover. Is that hiss something to be concerned with? My next step is to pull the valve cover and then do another air test. I am pretty sure o know which injector is leaking the first one closeest to the front of the truck. I think that's the last one on the passenger side to replace.
When you performed the air test did you do it with the oil filter and cap removed? You shouldn't hear anything on the fuel side if the fuel pump isn't running.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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No I did not have the oil filter and cap removed. I have never Don that when I have done an air test in the past. So what could it be that I am hearing air from the fuel filter cap?
 
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No I did not have the oil filter and cap removed. I have never Don that when I have done an air test in the past. So what could it be that I am hearing air from the fuel filter cap?
I don't see how you could get air in the fuel side while doing an air test on the HPO system, but you can get air coming back through the HPOP and into the HPO reservoir which is normally heard through the oil filter housing. When performing an air test you should listen for air through the oil filter housing and both valve covers.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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I heard air on the passenger side but my IPR and ICP seem OK 66 IPR 1500 icp
 
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I heard air on the passenger side but my IPR and ICP seem OK 66 IPR 1500 icp
When you pull the valve cover and do an air test again, pay attention to the tops of the injector seals and nipple cup seals.
 
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So after a little checking my IPR seems a little low at 66% I am reading I should be at closer to the 80s. Could this be my no start problem and why I am hearin g air from the pasaanger side valve cover
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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So I found the it leak it was a stand pipe I replaced about a month ago. Guess I will never buy another dorman product. But now the truck still is taking a bit of time to crank over and I am showing code p2284 would that indicate that my IPR is going out?? What else could I be looking at.
 
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