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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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6.0 won't start

I recently purchased a 2006 f350 with 6.0 power stroke. I drove it approx 15 miles shut the truck off, let it sit for approx 3 he's. Then I drove another 15 miles and shut it off. When I went back to it. To start it up would not start. The dealer said brand new injectors when I bought the truck. I tried to start it for approx ten min. I didn't want to bog down the battery. So when it wouldn't start I sprayed a shot of starting fluid and it took right off. But when you shut it off it won't start again. Anyone have any of these sort of problems before?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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A: DO NOT USE STARTER FLUID good way to kill the engine
B: Do you have something to read live data? If not don't spend a dime until you get something
C: If i had my guess it's either stand pipes, dummy plugs, or STC fitting on the hpo side
D: My guess on what the dealer told you that all injectors are bad then you have a bad ficm which probably failed due to bad electrical sysysystem (bad batts, bad alt, or both)

This is just my quick guess not knowing your history.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Had you driven it and turned it off for a short time and it wouldnt start back or had it sat the second time awhile? Sounds like you have what is called a "hot no start" issue which is usually caused by a leak in the high pressure oil system. Do you have any gauges that read live data like a scangauge ll or torque app (Android)? Kind of hard to diagnose without some info. I will say the 05+ issues are notorious for the stc fitting on the high pressure oil pump failing but you can also have no starts caused from bad orings on the dummy plugs and even the oil rail orings can be an issue. One quick test you can do is if it does start back up after its cooled down and you have to turn it off and it will not start back up, you can unplug the icp sensor on the passenger side valve cover. It is just a sensor sticking straight out towards the front of the engine, cant miss it. Anyway if that sensor is bad it can cause issues but you can rule it out by unplugging it to see if it starts. If it still doesnt start then the sensor is likely good and you more than likely have a leak in the system. I know this is alot of information especially if your not familiar with these engines. Anyway do a search for "hot no start" or google it and you will find tons of info. Also read the tech folder at the top of the forum and some other good info is found on these links: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ole-story.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html

Good luck and if you have any more questions im sure someone will chime in.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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KDAVID1 you must have hit "send" just ahead of me..haha
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ROBBINthaHOOD
KDAVID1 you must have hit "send" just ahead of me..haha
Haha-takes me forever to type stuff with one finger on a tablet lol.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Haha-takes me forever to type stuff with one finger on a tablet lol.
I hear ya..takes me awhile to type on a full keyboard with two hands
And I second what you said on using starter fluid, keep that for old tractors.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 11:00 PM
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Yeah I know it wasn't good but I was stranded and had no other choice. The one thing that I noticed was that when I parked my truck at night. There was oil spots on the cement driveway. That wasn't there before.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 11:02 PM
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They also replaced the batteries as well.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2015 | 11:50 PM
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A high pressure oil leak will be internal so you wouldnt see it, you can have leaks in various places on these engines especially if you run the full 15 qts in them, most only use 13.5-14 qts. The oil on the ground isnt likely your issue.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:43 AM
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His icp will be under the turbo, it's a early 04. Just air test and listen for the leaks. 03 /early 04 trucks do not have dummy plugs, standpipes or the troublesome Stc fittings. Probably either ball tubes, top injector seals or hpop.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 07:31 AM
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I am not sure about the '06 model 6.0's sensors layout so maybe someone will chime in if I am all wrong. I would check the IPR sensor, oil on the ground plus no start could be an indication of oil in the electrical plug connection. It is a simple thing to check no money involved, pull the plug off and check it for oil contamination. That's what came to mind when you said no start and new oil leak. If the plug has oil in it the computer will get the wrong data. Get the suggested live data reader such as the above post recommended, keep your post updated and the problem will be found, patience is a must with these engines.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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06 ipr is under the turbo of course and icp is on the passenger side valve cover.
The oil on the ground could be from just about anywhere on top of the engine.
Silly question--does it have oil in it?

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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 09:03 AM
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Where was it stated it was on 04?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ROBBINthaHOOD
Where was it stated it was on 04?
I thought he said an '06 and I'm not sure on the sensor locations on that one as mine is an '03 engine. It just crossed my mind (short trip) starting problem + new oil leak (could) =oil soaked IPR pig tail. Probably a long shot but easily checked.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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its 06

Took it to the dealer and they had no problem starting it. But when i went to get the truck I had to try and start it for aprox 30 min before it would fire up. Now that it is warm it will fire up no prob. Could it be a difference in the outside temp? I let the glow plugs cycle numerous times. The previous owner had a SCT tuner hooked up to it.
 
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