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Old 03-02-2015, 08:13 PM
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Clutch Fan - Help!!!

Hello!

I have a 1979 Ford Ranger XLT w/ a 400 6.6L engine(really a 351m). This truck came with AC and originally had a clutch fan installed on it. I took the clutch off after my engine overheated and am looking to put one back on at this point.

Here is the clutch and fan combo i purchased:
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Amazon.com: Hayden Automotive 2799 Premium Fan Clutch: Automotive Amazon.com: Hayden Automotive 2799 Premium Fan Clutch: Automotive
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Flex-a-lite 5719 Steel Star Aluminum 19.25 Flex-a-lite 5719 Steel Star Aluminum 19.25


Here is my question, on the Hayden site it requires a fan with 2-1/2" pitch. I have been unable to find a fan online that would match this clutch. The Flex-a-lite 5719 seemed to be my best option but various internet posts say the fan shouldn't be used over 4000RPM's. Can any of you recommend a good fan to match this clutch? My truck weighs ~5,800lbs and I do a good amount of towing with it.

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Let me know, thanks!
 
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Old 03-18-2015, 04:04 AM
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. Don't you still have the original fan?

. Aluminum fan blades have a reputation for cracking and flying off eventually...
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Are you against using an electric one?
 
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:16 AM
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some info I found,


Fan Clutches & Fan Blades

Fan Clutches

Fan Clutch Operation & Troubleshooting
The Fan Clutch is a component of the cooling system that varies the fan speed to meet the cooling needs of the engine. Nearly all rear wheel drive vehicles use Fan Clutches to control fan speed because of their ability to provide high volumes of air and good fuel economy. Despite their popularity, they are one of the least understood cooling components. There are two types of Fan Clutches, the Non-Thermal (also called centrifugal clutches) and the Thermal Fan Clutch.



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Non-Thermal Fan Clutch
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Thermal Fan Clutch
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The air temperature coming through the radiator is sensed by the bi-metal thermal spring on the front of the thermal fan clutch. It expands and contracts with the change in air temperature operating a valve inside of the clutch. When cold, the silicone drive fluid is pumped from the working area to the reservoir. When hot, the valve opens allowing fluid from the reservoir to be transferred to the working area thereby increasing the fan speed. The clutch disengages as the air temperature decreases, closing the valve and allowing the silicone fluid to be pumped back into the reservoir. A thermal fan clutch is engaged on a cold startup because the fluid drains into the working area when the engine is shut off. The fan clutch will slow down shortly after startup as a result of a pumping action produced by a difference in speed between the shaft and the body of the clutch.
Most models are designed to duplicate original equipment performance. Some Chevrolet/GMC truck models are specifically designed to engage at lower temperatures than the original equipment parts that they replace.
Thermal Fan Clutch Design Types

We make three different types of thermal fan clutches; Standard, Heavy and Severe Duty. Each type is engineered to simulate the performance, fit and appearance of the original equipment clutch that it replaces. All fan clutches are for specific applications and should only be applied for which they are cataloged. Use of the wrong fan clutch may result in poor cooling, excess noise, reduced mileage, or fan clutch failure. <table width="199" class="ncode_imageresizer_warning2" id="ncode_imageresizer_warning_7" abp="1365"> <tbody abp="1366"> <tr height="5" abp="1367"> <td width="100%" align="right" class="td2" abp="1368" unselectable="on"></td> <td class="td1" abp="1369">Report this image</td></tr></tbody></table>

Standard Duty Thermal
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So on a standard duty thermal, at 70% shaft speed with a 1-1 crank to water pulley and a 4000rpm max fan speed, you should be at 5714 RPM at the crank. Or am I reading that wrong? A underdrive pulley should gain you some more RPMs also, but I wouldn't run one.
 
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:48 AM
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Interesting info. The 20-30% minimum number would seem to explain why an electric fan can increase efficiency. Many times no fan is needed at all but these clutches keep the fan running about 1/4 shaft speed anyway.
 
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