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Old Mar 1, 2015 | 06:29 PM
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Cool need new shocks

Need some help,I bought new shocks for my 08 E250 but how the heck do get in there to remove the upper shock
Nut.does any body know what size wrench fits that upper nut not sure if it's metric or us .on the drivers side can't even see the nut only part of the threads what bird brain designed that layout ! Or what,s the best way and what tool is best to get in there Please help !
 
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Old Mar 1, 2015 | 07:06 PM
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You must be asking about the front shocks?

Short of lifting the body..........which you don't want to do.......

One of the reasons I always buy/use GABRIEL is the nut on the top piston, just under the bushing, insert a closed box wrench on the "hidden" nut, it will turn and hold the wrench in place against the body, and turn the lower shock nut, turning the piston itself. You can also use a pair of channel locks, or vice grips to turn the piston section of the shock.

Could not tell you the wrench size off hand, and your's may be different sized.

Also, if your not saving the old shocks, you can cut the top section off with a zip wheel, sawzall, or torch.
And install the new shocks with the method above.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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Yeah thanks for your reply wildman ,it seems other user's recommend the sawzall too,thanks I guess I'll have to try that method.I didn't even look at the rear yet but others show real pain also
 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 01:28 AM
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I have a couple of these in 2 sizes


 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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vettex2 - That's a cool little wrench, I didn't know they even made something like that.........Now I got to get More wrenches
 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 07:15 AM
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I myself use Bilstein shocks because of that same hidden nut thing Wildman mentions. It's at least a 3/4" wrench size, is incredibly useful when time to remove them. Another aspect is Bilstein's are a mono-tube design with a boot covering the piston shaft whereas most other brands use a metal jacket for this reason. That tends to prevent holding the piston shaft in order to remove the mounting nut.

Rear shocks can be a bear unless you know the "secret"----drop the rear spare. From underneath and approaching them from behind the axle makes this remarkably "easy". If you're careful a Sawzall or other similar reciprocating saw is useful as the nuts on top of the shock studs tend to be rusted in place.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 07:24 AM
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JWA - Thanks for clearing that up, I didn't know if the Bilstein shocks came with the shaft nut. With that "second" nut, sure makes a huge difference on installing/removing the front shocks, where you cannot even see the top mounting nut.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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I used the sawzall method for the front top. Made for a quick removal.

I had Sears do the rears for $20 bucks labor eack. Took them hours!
 
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Good advice and what a cool wrench. I had Sears install shocks on my van a couple years ago (some kind of higher end Monroes--Sensatrac) when they were running a "free installation" special. Fronts went very well but one of the rears tied up the mechanic for about 2 hours. I lost my appetite for working on shocks and exhaust systems some years ago...

Thanks for the tips, everyone,
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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I've never had to cut off old shocks but it sounds like a good idea. I'd probably use this to do it. It's easier to maneuver. It's an air body saw

or a blowtorch
 
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by vettex2
I've never had to cut off old shocks but it sounds like a good idea. I'd probably use this to do it. It's easier to maneuver. It's an air body saw

or a blowtorch
That because You don't live in the Rust Belt

One of the best tools I ever "invested" in was a oxy/acetylene torch set, greatest thing for removing "Rust-Welded" bolts/fittings

If anything, just heating up a rusted nut, spins that puppy right off.
Oh.....and using Anti-seize for reassembly on everything.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 07:07 PM
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I am glad we don't have those rust issue but I too have a torch if needed. I just like air tools. they are less hazardous
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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I believe it's a 19mm on the 2008. Passenger side isn't a big problem, driver's side is. I have a 19mm angled gear wrench that gets on the top nut and a regular wrench will catch the bottom. I have a 15/14 combo gear wrench that fits 2006 factory and aftermarket (15mm / 9/16ths respectively) that has also been helpful. There are a few situations where the gear wrench really saves the day, and this would be one of them IMHO.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Any shortcuts or tips for getting the upper washer/grommet and nut all re-installed on the stem mount? Successfully removed the blown shock - need to install my 5165s this afternoon - Driver side only, pass side looks straight forward. And FYI there are no upper wrench flats on the shock body below the Stem mount on the Bilstein 5165s

Thanks a Ton
 
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