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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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570 wow! that pump cost more then any whole idi truck i bought and they all drove home!
I didn't pay 570. I paid 488 w/o an upfront core charge.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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570 wow! that pump cost more then any whole idi truck i bought and they all drove home!
this is why a lot of idi's today are down on power.it's not easy to part with a grand for ip,injectors,fuel filter,gp's,and set the timing when its as much or a large % of the vehicles cost.

you may have gotten a near free truck,but you'll join the rest of us with more in parts than purchase price before long,if you haven't gotten there yet lol.in fact the less you pay,just means the quicker that's going to happen.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
this is why a lot of idi's today are down on power.it's not easy to part with a grand for ip,injectors,fuel filter,gp's,and set the timing when its as much or a large % of the vehicles cost.

you may have gotten a near free truck,but you'll join the rest of us with more in parts than purchase price before long,if you haven't gotten there yet lol.in fact the less you pay,just means the quicker that's going to happen.

not necessarily! i ususaly get them because the factory glow plug controller burns the plugs out and they cant start them in the winter.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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you didn't do bad, bought reman a 1 1/2 yrs ago w/ 1yr warranty & paid $500, return cups & lines is what i choked on, expensive plastic
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 08:17 AM
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If you dont have proof of a new filter change at time of pump install you will have no warranty.
I hope dieselsite has a good rebuilder or you will be dissapointed.
I have a shop that I have used for 30 + years and have excellent results.
With stanadyne parts skyrocketing, my standard pump rebuild with minor performance tweaks is 575.00 plus shipping.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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as long as you have a receipt for a filter that pre-dates pump purchase you have proof of filter change, they have know way of disproving when filter was installed, i would change it though it's pocket change compared to what you have spent on pump, i change fuel filters everytime i change oil on a piece no matter what manufacture specs are, it's the cheapest maintenance you can do on your fuel system
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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as long as you have a receipt for a filter that pre-dates pump purchase you have proof of filter change, they have know way of disproving when filter was installed, i would change it though it's pocket change compared to what you have spent on pump, i change fuel filters everytime i change oil on a piece no matter what manufacture specs are, it's the cheapest maintenance you can do on your fuel system
Where are you getting fuel filters that mskes it cheap maintenance every oil change? I put a new one on mine 2 years ago when I bought it. If I replaced it every 3-5k miles it the $ spent would probably buy me a new inj pumps every 100,000k miles.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 06:33 PM
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yeah that's just wasting $. these fuel filters are the size of oil filters (the larger the filter,the longer it lasts.) your throwing away perfectly good,new filters at just 3-5k miles.they're rated for 60k miles/4 yrs.
no harm in doing that,but it's a brand new filter still. you should sell them for half price in the marketplace;
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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Where are you getting fuel filters that mskes it cheap maintenance every oil change? I put a new one on mine 2 years ago when I bought it. If I replaced it every 3-5k miles it the $ spent would probably buy me a new inj pumps every 100,000k miles.
I buy FF at CAT dealer for 17.28 each (donaldson) i run ext life OF (donaldson) at 17.67 each, service at 8000 (it gets sampled and could go about 1000 more) truck had 90000 on original pump when i got it, i r&r pump at 258000 still running original nozzles at 274000, scales in at 13000 to 14000 and gets 15mpg city, pump cost $500 to $600, 600/258000=.0023 per mile cost of pump, 258000/8000=32.25 svc's, 32.25x17.28=557.28 filter cost, 557.28/258000=.0021 per mile cost of FF total cost of fuel system maint =1157.28 not including labor to r&r pump

if you r&r every 100000 thats 1 1/2 more pump cost approx $1500 in 250000 plus 1 1/2 r&r cost not to mention your probably going to have at least set of nozzles at $500 to $600 plus that r&r cost

don't say "I do my own r&r" your time is worth a dollar value and it has to be figured in

that's how it is the cheapest maint you can do

when you run run the maint on as many pieces as i do you learn to look at things different and we haven't even touched on down-time yet, and yes that has to be figured as well
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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Todd, your thinking is that because you change your filters more often,that they are somehow protecting better at keeping contaminates from reaching your ip and injectors better than if you changed the filter to it's recommended change interval of 60k miles/4 years.
it doesn't work like this.the filter will just becomes plugged up if you run it longer than you should/get bad fuel.


the ip and injectors are medium ware items and they will age and ware despite your fuel condition.- re-read that for emphasis and don't believe it! please call up your local authorized stanadyne dealer and ask him if this statement is true and read it to him as written for his response.

idi engines will run forever and a day with ip's and injectors well past 100k but this doesn't mean they are working with peak efficiency still.
your far better off to extend your needless fuel filter swap interval and reduce your medium ware item interval and you'll truly save by having greatly more power and really save big (thousands) at the pump over the years.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Todd, your thinking is that because you change your filters more often,that they are somehow protecting contaminates from reaching your ip and injectors better than if you changed the filter to it's recommended change interval of 60k miles/4 years.
it doesn't work like this.the filter will just becomes plugged up if you run it longer than you should/get bad fuel.


the ip and injectors are medium ware items and they will age and ware despite your fuel condition.- re-read that for emphasis and don't believe it! please call up your local authorized stanadyne dealer and ask him if this statement is true and read it to him as written for his response.

idi engines will run forever and a day with ip's and injectors well past 100k but this doesn't mean they are working with peak efficiency still.
your far better off to extend your needless fuel filter swap interval and reduce your medium ware item interval and you'll truly save by having greatly more power and really save big (thousands) at the pump over the years.
i understand your thinking, but the proof is in the math, don't know to many guys that have gotten a quarter mill out of a pump & still counting on nozzles & my pump failure was not wear issue it was a part failure, truck ran as strong as ever until it just didn't, as a matter there was no real noticeable performance or effiency increase so i will keep with my expensive maint practices & changing FF, & you guys can keep changing pumps, tho stanadyne dealer will tell you that he wants to sell you as many pumps as he can
 
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