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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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Interesting question, I agree with Bill on testing but a bit more to it. There may be something to by gained by going larger but IMO size is secondary to tunablity. This brings up an interesting question, just how tunable is a 4100. In particular how many Holley parts will fit it.


Still though overall yeah long run you're better off with something else, something more tunable and likely larger. But is it worth it to you, you're not a tuning expert, carbs are expensive, and maybe you have a reason for the 4100.


Finally don't bite off too much at once, a new carb could be exactly that.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 07:38 PM
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The 4100 is very tuneable, one trick is to take some old Autolite jets, cut them off and drill and tap for the Holley jets as they are much more available. Old trick from the 60s and 70s. One of the big advantages is the annular boosters.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
The 4100 is very tuneable, one trick is to take some old Autolite jets, cut them off and drill and tap for the Holley jets as they are much more available. Old trick from the 60s and 70s. One of the big advantages is the annular boosters.
I was thinking bigger, that it'd be pretty darn cool to super tune a 4100. For example if the secondary diaphragm cover interchanges with holleys then a quick fuel quickset one can be used. If the air bleeds and power valve channel can be customized for screw in restrictors, etc. Doesn't look like the accelerator pump has a spring, add one.


Mostly just brainstorming, be pretty darn cool though.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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The accelerator pump has 2 springs, a return spring inside under the diaphragm and a torsion spring on the throttle shaft. The arm on the throttle shaft has 4 holes for different stroke settings. Lowest hole is the least amount, but has the longest duration, Ford used to tell you to change from a summer to a winter setting by going up one hole from the std. location.

Secondary diaphragm cover is totally different, but I'll bet a good machinist could modify one so you could use the Holley quick change spring kit.

The power valve restrictions are pressed in and can be removed and replaced with some small screw-in jets as can the idle air bleeds. Idle tubes can be easily pulled out, and any 2100 shares those parts.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 08:08 AM
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They are hard to find; but Ford made a 600 cfm 4100 in the 1960s.

It was used mostly on big block engines but a version for the 289 HP

was also susposed to flow 600 cfm.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 09:27 AM
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One identifying item on the 289 HP version, it was a manual choke.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 06:08 PM
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Sure but if LARIAT 85 is going to change carbs, unless he finds something like that for free IMO there is no better route to go then this sucker.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/qf...-vsf/overview/





It's A LOT of carb that is perfect for his application, for only(by new carb standards) $320.
Quick Fuel Slayer series carburetors offer affordability, great looks, and impressive adjustability. Economical horsepower performance is not a dream! Quick Fuel Technology has engineered their Slayer series of 600 cfm and 750 cfm street carburetors with everything you want at a price you need to fit your budget. Their hand-built quality and all-aluminum construction are definitely grand, but their changeable idle air and high-speed air bleeds, 3-stage emulsion circuits, changeable primary idle feed and power valve restrictions, vacuum secondary adjustment screw, and unique secondary metering plate with changeable jets are nothing shy of outstanding! Pursue horsepower and get more dollar power with the carburetors that let you tune "your way" and offer show-quality appeal--Quick Fuel Slayer series carburetors.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 06:51 PM
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That would be real nice if I was still running a carburetor on mine. The original carb on a 460 was 600 cfm, 750 would be great.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BruteFord
Sure but if LARIAT 85 is going to change carbs, unless he finds something like that for free IMO there is no better route to go then this sucker.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/qf...-vsf/overview/
Thanks for the idea, but I am not really interested in changing carburetors. I really LOVE the Motorcraft 2100/2150 and Autolite 4100 carburetors. I have another Autolite 4100 size 600 cfm in my possession, it just needs a good rebuild. I was just curious if my engine combination was good with the 450 - 500 cfm carburetor I already have on it or if I needed to go with the bigger size.

Anyway, I did another test drive today. I opened the spark plug gaps from 0.044" to 0.050" and went for a test drive. The "stop and think about it" dead spot scenario I was experiencing under load when I gave it a lot of gas and when the engine was cold (like in an emergency situation) seems to have vanished. Only a VERY slight "hint" of hesitation this time, not enough to even matter and certainly something I can live with.

This is the only change I made; I didn't make any choke adjustments.

But then again, it is about 20 degrees colder here today than it was last week. So maybe that has something to do with it?
 
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