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View Poll Results: The ACLU
is a group, America would be better off without.
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always fights for the rights of Americans.
3
5.00%
I don't know anything and I don't care either.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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We would be MUCH better off without them!!
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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Target Practice. and you can put most of the lawyers alone the same line.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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Without.

Fighting against prayer in schools (good luck eradicating that as long as there are tests......), quotes from the book of psalms in the grand canyon, posting of the 10 commandments in public places.....

Now are those last two an attack on christians or jews or both?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 06:02 AM
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Without. I've never heard of them fighting for something that I care about.

I hate to sound shallow, but unless you're doing something for me, it's going to be hard to elicit my support.

XXL
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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I voted without but I think they should be allowed to exist. When they take on these high profile cases it usually shows just how crazy they are. Like NAMBLA, who in their right mind thinks that the behavior that this organiztaion promotes is ok???
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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As long as they protect the rights of those who should be protected that's fine. But allowing NeoNazi's to march through a Jewish neighborhood is just plain wrong.

(Studied it in 9th grade 5 years ago)
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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When I was much younger, I thought they were standing up for the downtrodden. I DONT think that any more. I think they find the most outlandish thing in the world, drape it in the flag and constitutional rights, and fire off their fireworks. For attention and media coverage. Perhaps power with the government...
BUT, I think that a lot of the tree huggers and save the funny-sexed-religious-whale groups take the most extreme position they can, and then blow their horns, I suppose hoping for a compromise. I would respect a more reasonable position a whole lot more...
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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In theory, an organization like the ALCU is exactly what this country should have--an organization solely dedicated to defending our most basic rights guaranteed under the constitution.

However the ALCU, as it is now, seems to pursue a rather narrow, very liberalized agenda. For example, I have never, ever heard of them taking on anything having to do with guns or gun control. It seems that unless it fits with their moral philosphy, they won't touch it.

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Originally posted by MatthewJ
As long as they protect the rights of those who should be protected that's fine. But allowing NeoNazi's to march through a Jewish neighborhood is just plain wrong.

(Studied it in 9th grade 5 years ago)
Being as these residents were mostly old, feeble, Jews that still bore the tattoo serial number of their indignity, they were in no condition age-wise to take a lead pipe to the much younger neo-**** group that wanted to publicly taunt them again and bring back memories of the worst time in Jewish history for sport. That being true, there was no basis for the Police to deny their parade permit under the 'keeping the peace' clause, and justice & fairplay were not in the vocabulary of the Neo-****'s.

I don't believe everything schools told me, I was TEACHING school in Great Lakes, IL at that time.

It still doesn't hold a candle to defending nambla. (Lower Case intentional)
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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A.C.L.U....Vacate, scram, beat it, pack sand, vamoose, scarper, kick rocks, sctatch gravel, make tracks, hit the road, skitter off, or, be gone. Who needs 'em....
 
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Get rid of the ACLU! I wished someone could devise a way to sue and financially ruin them, causing them to hopefully cease to exist.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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Although I voted WITHOUT,



They do bring to light all of the freaks, wierdos and perverts that we need to watch out for......gives us a chance to fight for tighter laws and stiffer penalties on thier clients......
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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There was no proper poll answer.

The ACLU seems to fight for "political correctness", no matter how weird and perverted that is. Politically "correct" seems to be defined by the news media, Hollywood, and Liberals.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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They do plenty of good...but need to dump some of the agenda (when was the last time you saw them stand up for the 2nd amendment?).

Creepily, "Stand Up For Your Rights" is playing on the radio as a type this.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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We would be better off WITHOUT!!!!!!!!
 
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