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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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body panels

dont know if this is in the right place.

we have a bed that we want to put on our truck.the bed has damage but we have a new side panel for it.

the question is.

could we use rivet to attach it to the bed? we dont have spot welder and it would cost a arm and a leg to get the body shop to do it.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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I wouldn't rivet it. You may be able to use panel adhesive though. Get it at a body shop supply house, you use a caulk gun to put it on. Also, harbor freight has a reasonably priced spot welder.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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I don't see why you could not pop rivet it. That's how they are putting the new aluminum trucks together, with rivets.

I used to use them all the time before I got a welder. They held good, but they were always too tall and required too much filler to hide them. I started countersinking the hole that helped some.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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yea we looked at that spot welder.we dont think it will fit all in the places to spot weld it.

and we can put the time in to hide the rivts.

the bed thats on there now is all beat to hell and rusted out.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
I don't see why you could not pop rivet it. That's how they are putting the new aluminum trucks together, with rivets.

I used to use them all the time before I got a welder. They held good, but they were always too tall and required too much filler to hide them. I started countersinking the hole that helped some.
Pop rivets are not even remotely close to the structural rivets used on aluminum bodies. The main problem is that the mandrel isn't locked in place and can come out. Then you have a tiny, hollow soft rivet holding things together.

Look up cherry max rivets, or look for structural blind rivets. There's lots of info out there in the home built aircraft sites.

I'm a aircraft mechanic BTW, so I know a thing or two about rivets. One you price out cherry max rivets you'll rethink the panel adhesive.

You can use rivets to hold it while the panel adhesive dries however, because they won't be the main thing holding it on.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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You could use Cleco's to hold the panel on temporarily, or you could just use selftapping screws and take them out when the epoxy panel adhesive hardens.

Then you don't have to try and hide them.

If you have air, a punch and flange tool will help level the panels and punch holes for screws.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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structural adhesive holding my box panels on for 3 years now.fusor seemed to be the brand to use when i researched it. most tubes need a special gun to apply(double barrel).i used the motorcraft stuff (TA.1.B) supposedly made by fusor. not cheap stuff.depending on your timeline it seemed to take a while to cure.the one drawback with this way vs welding is that the panels overlap a bit meaning more body work. use fiberglass reinforced filler


 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-bedsides.html
 
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These may help you not have to use so much bondo when lapping the panels.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
These may help you not have to use so much bondo when lapping the panels.

till you use them and warp the crap out of your panels...

I usually use a backing strip. Does the same thing, just without warping. You do have to attach it to both sides and it could create a rust area if not sealed... That's a problem with welding, not so much with panel adhesive.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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whats the glue called?

will it hold for a while? not just 2 years?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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There are many varieties of panel bonding adhesive.
I've used 3M, and I have the correct plural component gun.

On properly prepared metal it should last forever, unless there's a fire.

f100, I haven't seen warping using my pneumatic flange tool.
Is there an issue other than tight radii?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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this stuff right?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-8116-PANEL-BONDING-ADHESIVE-W-8571-APPLICATOR-/271428820055?hash=item3f326b1c57&item=271428820055&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
 
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I use 8115
It is black and sets faster.

This stuff is very sensitive to temperature, like any epoxy.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 07:31 PM
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I like slow setting for a bedside. There is A LOT of surface area to clamp in place
 
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