(THERE - I put it where we can discuss it at least until it is all hiked to the members only area)


I do not understand what all of this sudden series of attacks on Cosby is about, first of all. I mean - WHY WAIT THIS LONG? What is opportune about this very moment...

Apparently such accusations have been made before - but addressed and dismissed.

Those accusations that were "PUT AWAY" so to speak as 'done with' are also being dredged up again, like the justice system had never looked at them at all.

When I think about Bill Cosby - in my mind I see a man who is fairly ordinary except in one regard: He objects to profanity and things that a family would likely not want to see in their homes. This is what has distinguished Cosby throughout his public career and why I find it totally incomprehensible that there should be a completely different set of "THINGS" going on in the background.


Drugs, sexual misbehaviour, nasty behaviour - he certainly knows all about those things but has made a conscious and public choice to have nothing to do with them.

Mr. Cosby has created an ICON. An ICON is a model, a thing that is to be attained to. And his philanthropic persuits are broad and generous
When I want to think of a way to put a comic perspective on a thing that is not vulgar, I ask myself first: "How would Cosby say this?"


Other comedians like Eddy Murphy and Richard Pryor have commented about Cosby saying things without cursing by responding with things like "Have a coke and a smile and STF up!"

SO where is all of this coming from?


I have long held a belief that in our society there exists a sub-society that is never satisfied unless it can tear others down in order to improve their own appearance by comparison.

I have seen that at first hand many times - and if that is the only way such folk can find to improve others estimation of themselves they are disgusting and hopeless indeed

It remains to be seen how all of this will fall out.

But while I do believe Bill is an ordinary guy in many ways I just don't buy all of this trashing.


It just does not seem to me that any man can say and do everything Bill Cosby has for many decades, and not be the real deal.




My bet is that the accusers are after money and nothing else.

 

it smells like they're just after $ to me as well.a couple of them are very poor over actors.

 

I have no idea of Cosby's guilt or innocence regarding any of these accusations.

The LAPD has stated that they will be investigating some things, but that's the only legal action that I've seen.

On the other hand, various groups are racing as fast as they can to distance themselves.

The Navy withdrew an honor
An academic institution did likewise
A biographer has said that she's sorry for not pursuing these issues more aggressively

This is the kind of thing that I do hate -- as far as I know, he hasn't been found guilty of anything. I do believe that there's a lawsuit pending, but not in any way resolved.

Can't anybody stand up and say " These are serious allegations, and if they are proven, we will take appropriate action. But, a person is innocent until proven guilty, so we will wait until these matters are resolved "

It would take some guts ( with a b)because the media has him down as guilty because, of course, that sells.

I'll wait and see, and hope that he gets a fair day in court. I'm not sure that he will.

This has nothing to do with my feelings about Cosby ( I really don't have any). I just dislike the prejudgement that's so prevalent these days.

hj

 

What happens if he is clear of everything?

His rep is still smeared....

And why should the navy pull an honor?
Why an academic the same?


Nothing is proven yet....


If he is truly innocent significant damage has been done to him. If all of it is a lie - the liars should be forced to pay up for attempting a thing like this.
Or so I would think

He has lost many contracts and paying enterprises because of these accusations. If they prove false - it is a big deal.

But can blood or dollars be drawn from a stone

IE: If a counter action is launched - they are nobody with a dime to collect damages from

~And that is another point I have been looking at.


The accusers stand everything to gain, and have nothing to offer in return if damages are assessed




My gut reaction is that they are "POACHERS"


But stupid people like that have to be talked into it by some one very clever, who convinces them that it is a good idea


Do they all have the same lawyer?

(I'm just speculating at this point)

Or a group of shady lawyers with no obvious connection to one another


That is not beyond the bounds of reason



I think there is a lot more to this behind the scenes, and it is far beyond just Bill Cosby
What I smell is a group of weasels who have just pooped in their own hole

 

That's our new world that we live in. Thanks to "TV News". This generation wants action now and to hell with justice or the law. Just have a bunch of people accuse him and now guilty.

Don't know if he's guilty or not, but the press has painted him in that light. Saying things like "he paid off women who has claimed sexual assault. Or Making all the claims sound credible. without any substance because of the time period that has passed.

Who did he pay off? Who are these people that are making this claim? Is there credibility, and time lines, or PROOF?

Not just the TV press saying so because it boosts ratings.

 

my take is a bunch of gold diggers looking for a "retirement fund"
why wait 40 years to make a claim?
because you can't prove it happened, but he can't prove it did not happen.
now there are a bunch of claims he raped some 14-15 year old girls while they were working at the playboy mansion back in the 70's. really now, what were 14-15 year old girls doing WORKING at the playboy mansion.

and it was reported the other day some lawyer group wants him to put up 100 million into a fund for the victims.
why??
bill clinton molested women, admitted to it, and gets paid at least a million bucks every time he shows up at an event.

 

The rulings of the courts of public opinion are instantaneous.


IMPO...There is a lot of smoke rising from these old embers.

 

The gold-digging may certainly be part of it, but I think the number of women accusing him is being bolstered by some behind-the-scenes encouragement from those who disagree with or downright hate what Bill Cosby has to say on some social matters. I can't go into details on that last part here due to forum rules, but if you're internet/current events savvy, you can find it, or already know to what I'm referring.

Jason

 

There are just too many women stepping forward for this to be a conspiracy and many / most aren't looking for a financial means to closure.


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He clearly did these things, with this many coming forward. It's funny how folks get so enamored with celebrity that they'll turn a blind eye to pretty much anything they do - Clinton comes to mind. Heck, I heard a gal in McDonald's just the other day going on about how there's no way Aaron Hernandez could have done what he's accused of, and that "they're framing him"! It's not just professional athletes that commit heinous acts and then just pay to make it go away.

 

The plural of a single accuser is not guilt. These are not multiple witnesses to one event, but there are as many accusers as there are alleged events. And, the statute of limitations has long expired.

Jason

 

it's possible of course however it's also possible these women have "issues" too (and i don't mean issues that came from trauma of being rapped years ago.) a couple of them i bothered to listen to so far clearly are not "normal" if you know what i mean.
be it that it really happened or not (i don't know of course) i really think a couple at least, of these women sincerely believed it happened.listen and watch them closely.take what they have to say with a grain of salt.simply because there's are a lot of them,doesn't make him guilty.if you have a mental condition (for example) where one of your issues is a false memory where something took place that really didn't and as others see this with the same issues,they're memory could start "filling in" things on them as well and before you know it you have these people with the same accusations by the masses,firmly believing the same thing happened to them.

here is just something i grabbed to help show my point and to help understand what it appears to be happening to me at least;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome
now listen and watch these women talk again.do you notice them leaving out details or seem to be adding things as they go along or say things like they can't remember that detail right now,but latter on i will or like comments? stop.pause.listen.innocent before guilty.

 

Perzactly. Which makes their accusations even more plausible.


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I still like Fat Albert and all the gang.

 

There's an awful lot of smoke here for there not to be some sort of fire. I do believe he has settled with more than one accuser...why settle if you're innocent??? Perhaps it's easier for Cosby to write checks than to defend himself in court.


As to the question of "Why now"...many victims repress bad memories. I have a niece who was abused by her father over 30 years ago...she's dealing with it now. For years the memories were repressed...a cheating husband helped bring them to the forefront. A good lawyer is helping her with the cheating husband...a good therapist will hopefully be able to help her with the repressed memory of her abusive father.


Cosby wouldn't be the first...nor...would he be the last...to use his celebrity status and perceived power to take advantage of someone.