I've had BFG AT's on pickups and my Excursion. I loved them on the pick ups and liked them on the Excursion. I thought they were a good all around tire for snow or mud plus I got a ton of miles out of them. I switched to Michelin ms2's primarily because I read that the squareness of the tire would help with wander in the Excursion and I think it did.

Don't get me wrong, it took a lot more than tires to cure the wandering but the tires did contribute.

 

I may accept your challenge good sir.

The ground giving way cost me $1060 on a Sunday

 

Story and pics plz

 

Hah, of which? My stuck or when we go test Razzi's tires?

 

Of the ground giving way, n costing big $

 

My ground giving way wasn't anything spectacular. I walked ahead on foot to test out the terrain and it was seemingly solid. Turns out it was just a good crust on the top and I didn't weigh enough to really do anything to it. Rolled the Excursion over it on the other hand... straight down to the running boards and completely crossed up.

 

Oops. Lol.

 

Oh yeah. $83 at the coin-op car wash to get it clean. There was so much mud it completely covered the drain grate and started flooding the stall, ended up taking a trash can lid and using it as a shovel to haul the goop into the grass.

 

Mine is a similar story...

I was down at Twg66's place at a tech day and we were settling in for the evening. A good buddy calls me and says to make my way up to Sargent since I was 2 hours away. Something in my gut told me to stay, but I went anyhow.

I get to Sargent and he says that I just need to follow the road and when I get to the end of the pavement go down the road, turn left, and look for the campfire.

So I go down this muddy road with 4wd and my " Michelin LTX "Mud and Snow" rated tires. I finally see somewhere I can turn left, go left, get to the top of the incline and see the campfire. Seeing this campfire, I start driving towards it and notice that the closer I get, the more my truck is losing traction despite my steady acceleration.

I made the mistake of coming to a complete stop to investigate only to find that I was working my way deep into some "sugar sand". I get back in, try to back up and no go. Try to put it in 4lo, no go. Now I'm stuck, stuck and buried up to the running boards in wet sugar sand.

I call my buddy to come get me and try to pull me out. He tried pulling me out and almost got stuck himself. He threw the towel in and I tried calling a wrecker to pull me out. I call AAA and they promptly tell me to go screw myself. So now I'm at the mercy of any truck driver willing to come get me.

I go to sleep, get up the next morning, and happened to find a wrecker that may be able to get me out. The first attempt was with a '94 F350 that didn't have the pulling power to yank my heavy Excursion out. We actually got it stuck trying to pull mine out. We flagged down a few people passing by in a Jeep and they offered to pull the truck out, there went $60....

We get back to the shop and to get the truck that had the winch needed to pull mine out. We got the truck get halfway to the beach and the tire blows out on the '94 F350. We put the F350 on the hook, head back to the shop, put a new tire on and head back to the scene of the crime. A different tire blows and we're back to square one....

The long and short of it: they replaced the tire again, put it on a flatbed, and drove another truck to help pull mine out. It took all day and a total of 3 trucks to get mine unstuck. I got out and handed them the $1000 they charged, and went on my way.

Oh and when I got up the next morning I noticed something just awesome....I was a mere 40 feet away from a deep pond. Had I kept going my 6.0 would have been underwater and totaled...

 

Forgot to clear up why it's called "sugar sand"....

When wet, sugar sand is like quick sand, when it's dries it crystalizes and looks like brown, muddy sugar. Glistens nicely in the sun, but is hard as hell to get off....it got into places on my truck I never knew you could get mud

Back on topic...

 

Did I traumatize everybody and seriously derail this thread?

 

I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't have anything else to add.

 

How about the KO2's, anyone planning on giving them a try?

 

I've got the KO2. Drive really nice on the highway.

Cannot wait to get a chance to see how they perform in the snow - maybe Thursday next week as it is supposed to snow all day then here in CT.