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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Well I've had gas tanks full of sludge buildup from the crap. The one in my Jeep was like that, had to clean it with a wire wheel! It wasn't rust, just sludge that had the distinct smell of ethinol.

If you run more than a 10% in a vehicle not designed for it, the stuff eats up rubber in the fuel system.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fue...ison_chart.pdf

You are still off with your numbers

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What if you have a "fuel" line break? What do you do in case of a rollover? At least if you run out of "fuel" in few hours you can get enough to be "running on fumes" again
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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How often did a carb need to be rebuilt on a small engine (lawnmower, snowblower, etc) 15 years ago? Almost never.

How often do they have to be rebuilt now? Every year if you leave fuel in them.

I don't think the effect is nearly as pronounced in big engines, like cars, but there has to be some residual effect. Newer engines are designed with this stuff in mind but run an old vehicle, especially one with a carb, and it will let you know how bad ethanol is.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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If you run more than a 10% in a vehicle not designed for it, the stuff eats up rubber in the fuel system.
I ran E85 in my '00 Silverado for at least 50K miles, E30 in my supercharged Pontiac GTP, and 50% ethanol (half 87-octane gas with 15% ethanol and half E85) in my H3 Hummer and V-10 Excursion... and none of them are "flex-fuel" vehicles.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 02:21 PM
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How often did a carb need to be rebuilt on a small engine (lawnmower, snowblower, etc) 15 years ago? Almost never.

How often do they have to be rebuilt now? Every year if you leave fuel in them.

I don't think the effect is nearly as pronounced in big engines, like cars, but there has to be some residual effect. Newer engines are designed with this stuff in mind but run an old vehicle, especially one with a carb, and it will let you know how bad ethanol is.
We are not discussing small engines here....

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What if you have a "fuel" line break? What do you do in case of a rollover?
I guess you would be covered in caca
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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We are not discussing small engines here....

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Then disregard. I guess it in no way relates to the discussion. My apologies.

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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The following post is from a Gen 2 Lightning owners point of view:

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...has anyone else noticed this?
Yup, it's absolute garbage. I can't stand the stuff. The ethanol content makes my Lightning run like crap.

Originally Posted by ExploringNH
It's the ethanol content that is the difference.
Yup, it's absolute garbage. I can't stand the stuff.

Originally Posted by hav24wheel
I hate that crap. It just causes issues. IMO.
Yup, it's absolute garbage. I can't stand the stuff.

Stewart

PS - It's absolute garbage
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Then disregard. I guess it in no way relates to the discussion. My apologies.

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Obviously a small engine with a carb is a perfect application for fluids and fuels that a large fuel injected engine uses

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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My supercharged car loves whatever swill comes out of pump. Apparently those lightning guys need to find a tuner that is worth 2 craps.

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
My supercharged car loves whatever swill comes out of pump. Apparently those lightning guys need to find a tuner that is worth 2 craps.

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It's not the tune, it's my truck. It's a problem child and has been from the beginning.

I can PM you the story, but you'd be in tears after reading it. Either from laughing so hard or sympathy.

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NVM, not in the mood for arguing against ethanol.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Can we just not all agree that it's a little ignorant to put food in fuel? Seriously, problems (real or not) aside people are starving here in the US.... THE ****ING US! Were driving around on their empty stomachs!!! Just put the gas back the way it was, ****.
 
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