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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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Heat insulation

I need to find some heat insulation for my COE engine cover. I need to be able to glue it on the engine side and it can't be real thick....+or- 1/2 inch. And non flammable.

I plan to go to the junkyard and look at hood insulators, but not sure how that would work as the cover shape is very concave.
There are some insulation products available, but very expensive(as much as $65 a foot!). This is a low buck project, so I need some low buck ideas..

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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Several years back I bought a BMW hood from which I made some patch panels. It had a very nice insulation type blanket affixed to the under side of the hood. Try looking in high end passenger vans, mini vans.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by raytasch
Several years back I bought a BMW hood from which I made some patch panels. It had a very nice insulation type blanket affixed to the under side of the hood. Try looking in high end passenger vans, mini vans.
Once you installed some of that couldnt you cover it with some light metal to keep it in place. Just like a hood.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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With only a half-inch to work with, even a high-performance insulation material isn't going to do too much. A fibrous material with a stainless or aluminum sheet to reflect radiant heat is likely the most effective. You can dimple it to space it off the cover and have insulation behind it. (think cat converter heat shield)
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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What about coating it with Lizard Skin?

Car Ceramic Insulation - Spray On Auto Insulation - Automotive Heat Insulation | LizardSkin
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 10:34 PM
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I thought about lizard skin, but not sure how well it would work. 1 mm thick doesn't seem like much.....
Not cheap at $90 a gallon either. Would be easiest to apply though. Hmmmm
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 10:53 PM
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If you want to try lizard skin for a lot less cost try this paint additive instead.

Insulating Paint Additive Makes Paint Insulate

I'm going to be adding it to some DIY bedliner and coat my cab inside and underneath with it. But you can add it to just about any kind of paint/coating.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
If you want to try lizard skin for a lot less cost try this paint additive instead.

Insulating Paint Additive Makes Paint Insulate

I'm going to be adding it to some DIY bedliner and coat my cab inside and underneath with it. But you can add it to just about any kind of paint/coating.
I'm liking this........thanks. That is a great explanation of how this stuff works!
 
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Originally Posted by tinman52
I'm liking this........thanks. That is a great explanation of how this stuff works!
No problem. I thought the stuff sounded pretty good. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper then buying the lizard skin stuff.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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What about a hot water heater blanket - not the white stuff, but the metal foil faced stuff... comes in about 5/8" thick and is flame retardant.
 
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Originally Posted by fordman75
If you want to try lizard skin for a lot less cost try this paint additive instead.

Insulating Paint Additive Makes Paint Insulate

I'm going to be adding it to some DIY bedliner and coat my cab inside and underneath with it. But you can add it to just about any kind of paint/coating.
We looked at using a product like that on a pipeline project I worked on. The R-value of a thin layer (~0.060") of even a very good insulator is not worth the trouble, something less than R = 1.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
We looked at using a product like that on a pipeline project I worked on. The R-value of a thin layer (~0.060") of even a very good insulator is not worth the trouble, something less than R = 1.
It's going to be a lot thicker then that on my application. Mine will be receiving multiple coats. It will total around 1/4" total ( 1/8" inside cab floor & 1/8" under cab floor.

But I'm also going to use a Heatshield Products Lava Shield in the area my header is going to be in.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsp-781002

It's not cheap, but it is cheaper then melting off my bedliner!

But Tinman52's engine cover shouldn't be as closse to the exhaust as mine will be.

But if he's worried I would apply some kind of paint with that ceramic additive. And then to keep things low buck find an old Econoline van in the scrapyard. Pull the dog house off one and remove the heat shield from the inside and use that.
 
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Went to the junkyard today......looked at some hood insulators. Might work, but I see no easy way to attach. They are all pretty flat, too.
Then I looked at van engine covers. Seems most are a fiber glass mat covered with a thin aluminum sheet. I like this, but again, how to attach without drilling, etc. Plus they were all in pretty bad condition.

Also found some neat stuff at Aircraft spruce.......not real cheap either, but may have to bite the bullet.

Heat Shields from Aircraft Spruce
 
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Peel and seal from Lowes, low buck that is very popular to use. I going to try some myself, plenty of examples online.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by drptop70ss
Peel and seal from Lowes, low buck that is very popular to use. I going to try some myself, plenty of examples online.
I use peel&seal a lot for sound deadener, but was thinking the heat would melt the tar backing. Maybe I'll get out the heat gun and see what happens when it gets hot.....
 
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