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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Driver side injectors.

so at 189,000km I've finally taken my 6.0 in to have a poer balance test done on it. After reading the results all the tests came back positive. Fuel pressures passed with flying colours, oil pressures are all good, everything is working great. Except it seems like # 2 injector is starting to fail, and the #4, #6 and #8 injectors are pretty much gone. So my question is.....does it seem odd that all 4 injectors would fail on one side only? (Passenger side injectors are working great) is it common for this to happen?

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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 09:45 AM
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Did the shop tell you that one low injector could bring down the readings for the ones around it? Could that be the case with your test?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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No they never mentioned anything like that. They just said that three injectors were pretty much done, and the 4 one is starting to drop out. He did ask me if I've noticed any sort of sputtering or surging when driving especially at higher speeds and I told him I have been for a while now. Though I'm not getting any smoking or anything like that, but I do get periodic long cranks/hard starts whether the truck is cold or hot, which from what I was told by them can be cause by failing injectors and lack of fuel.

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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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It could be stiction issues, but everything on one side of the engine would seem odd for stiction IMO. Might be worth a try to do an oil change and also add the Archoil stiction additive.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Do you still have the stock banjo bolts? I have not heard of many failures but the 6.0 banjo bolts have check valves in them. I can't help but wonder if your drivers side is corroded or getting plugged up for some reason. The 6.4 banjo bolts have more and bigger ports and no check valve in them plus they are cheap to replace.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 05F250DSL
Do you still have the stock banjo bolts? I have not heard of many failures but the 6.0 banjo bolts have check valves in them. I can't help but wonder if your drivers side is corroded or getting plugged up for some reason. The 6.4 banjo bolts have more and bigger ports and no check valve in them plus they are cheap to replace.
It still has the stock banjo bolts in it. I've never heard of them causing an issue but I guess it's totally worth a try.


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It could be stiction issues, but everything on one side of the engine would seem odd for stiction IMO. Might be worth a try to do an oil change and also add the Archoil stiction additive.
I may have to try this out. Seeing as how the truck is almost due for an oil change anyways. Both suggestions are cheaper then 4 injectors at this point hahahahahhaha, though I did manage to work my dealership down to $300 (Canadian) a piece for injectors.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 12:32 AM
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Please keep us informed.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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Bismic have you used Archoil before, as I've never used products like this before, and I'm thinking that if it works it would have to be used on every oil change.
 
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I have used it a few times, but not because I needed it. I used it to see what the oil analysis would say was in it. My understanding is that some people get the benefit with a few treatments and then no more is needed. Others either need it all the time or it flat doesn't work for them.

Seems to me that the advantage is when it does work, you have pinpointed the area of the problem. Then you can decide on what you need to do from there (more treatments, polish the spool valves, new injectors, etc).
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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My driver side was the worst of my stiction. I noticed a huge difference just polishing the spools on that side. The passenger side was noticeable when I did that one but not as much as drivers.

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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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With Stiction Eliminator you use 2 quarts for the initial treatment, and then you only need a single quart every 3rd oil change to maintain the system
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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I would perform the bubble test on the driver's side just to make sure you do not have an injector allowing compression to get by. I know you didn't mention any exhaust smoke issues but my truck was showing the whole right bank had issues (which I am still working on) and it turned out to be compression in the fuel bowl/leaking injector. Easy test you can do and cost you no money. Well $1.40 for a cap to cap the fuel line port.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 05F250DSL
Do you still have the stock banjo bolts? I have not heard of many failures but the 6.0 banjo bolts have check valves in them. I can't help but wonder if your drivers side is corroded or getting plugged up for some reason. The 6.4 banjo bolts have more and bigger ports and no check valve in them plus they are cheap to replace.
I've gone ahead and ordered my banjo bolts, so that's going to be the next instal. Thanks for the heads up
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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My driver side was the worst of my stiction. I noticed a huge difference just polishing the spools on that side. The passenger side was noticeable when I did that one but not as much as drivers.

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When you polished up the spool valves, did you use like a 600 or 800 grit sand paper or steel wool? Also how far have you gotten after polishing them, and have the issues you had returned?

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I have used it a few times, but not because I needed it. I used it to see what the oil analysis would say was in it. My understanding is that some people get the benefit with a few treatments and then no more is needed. Others either need it all the time or it flat doesn't work for them.

Seems to me that the advantage is when it does work, you have pinpointed the area of the problem. Then you can decide on what you need to do from there (more treatments, polish the spool valves, new injectors, etc).
Thank you bismic for the suggestion. Totally worth a try now, and for the price I don't think it's a bad idea.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 56fordfella
I would perform the bubble test on the driver's side just to make sure you do not have an injector allowing compression to get by. I know you didn't mention any exhaust smoke issues but my truck was showing the whole right bank had issues (which I am still working on) and it turned out to be compression in the fuel bowl/leaking injector. Easy test you can do and cost you no money. Well $1.40 for a cap to cap the fuel line port.
I've never heard of "bubble testing" what is it? Is it just air testing the fuel lines from the secondary fuel bowel?

Thanks for all the help guys btw I really appreciate it
 
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