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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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clutch bleeding

This may come off dumb. I have been traditionally bleeding my clutch for about half an hour. Still no clutch pedal. I am still getting air out of the lines. Anybody know any quick ways to get around this. Maybe a vacuum pump?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tbehrens1
This may come off dumb. I have been traditionally bleeding my clutch for about half an hour. Still no clutch pedal. I am still getting air out of the lines. Anybody know any quick ways to get around this. Maybe a vacuum pump?


That is a pain, I tried last time like for an hour and then I ended up changing everything from diferent car. The official procedure is taking the slave out of car, fill it, let the line bleed until steady flow then while line running steady stream reconnect it. I know this is dumb, that is what manual says. Do you have a nipple where you would connect the vakuum pump. Mine does not have it, just tiny allen srew and hole in the slave. I would try pressurizing the reservoir, take the slave out and leave it hanging so the bleeding screw is up and try to bleed it. The lining is retarded on mine, goes all over the firewall, instead straight down. Good luck, this is so stupid design.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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I may try taking the slave off. I do have a bleeder screw on top with a nipple in it. I've never had this much trouble bleeding a clutch.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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Best way is to have it all hooked up, remove the slave from the trans, and pump the rod from under the vehicle. Only way I could get mine bled out after replacement
 
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tbehrens1
I may try taking the slave off. I do have a bleeder screw on top with a nipple in it. I've never had this much trouble bleeding a clutch.


Honesly I tried for over an hour and luckily we had another master slave from another car, still filled, I just used that. This system sucks so bad. Are u sure the master rod extends all the way out so it can suck new fluid?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gettysburg150
Best way is to have it all hooked up, remove the slave from the trans, and pump the rod from under the vehicle. Only way I could get mine bled out after replacement
This. You can even do it with the slave installed. There's a little play in the fork; just remove the cap, and push backward on the fork, while an assistant above observes. Initially, they'll see air bubbles. After a while, they'll just see the fluid pushing up, with no air.

Ideal solution is a pre-assembled, pre-filled pre-bled complete system, plug and play. Unfortunately, it looks like there still isn't one available for this generation.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Thanks for the info. Guys. Imbgoing to try a few things tonight and see what works the best. I might rig up a vacuum pump with compressed air.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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No problem bud.

Save yourself some time and some headache and just pump it from under the truck. It def helps to have someone watching up top to see the air bubbles and to make sure you dont press the rod too far, or else you'll get a face full of fluid when you push fluid out of the resevoir (ask me how I know lol).

I used a motorcraft cylinder and it had a small allen in the back that looks like a bleeder. From what I've read it is not a bleeder but used during manufacturing.

Factory shop manual says to just pump the clutch pedal (after allowing fluid to run out the hose then installing the hose into the cylinder) and the air will work out. BS. I pumped it about 1000 times and no go. Got under the truck, pumped it by hand like 6 times and BAM, good to go.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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No problem bud.

Save yourself some time and some headache and just pump it from under the truck. It def helps to have someone watching up top to see the air bubbles and to make sure you dont press the rod too far, or else you'll get a face full of fluid when you push fluid out of the resevoir (ask me how I know lol).

I used a motorcraft cylinder and it had a small allen in the back that looks like a bleeder. From what I've read it is not a bleeder but used during manufacturing.

Factory shop manual says to just pump the clutch pedal (after allowing fluid to run out the hose then installing the hose into the cylinder) and the air will work out. BS. I pumped it about 1000 times and no go. Got under the truck, pumped it by hand like 6 times and BAM, good to go.
Okay my system is bled. The /ONLY/ way to do this is described above. Filling the slave cylinder then letting the line flow, then attaching the line to the slave cylinder. However after I did this I pumped the clutch about 20 or 30 times and it did work out most of the air. Best clutch pedal I've had in a long time.
 
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Yep, I learned that last year myself, before that I used to do the pump at the slave trick, it was the only thing that would work, but even then it was a friggen nightmare. Here's my story for future reference:

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Now, before yesterday's driving the clutch needed to be bled. After the usual pump pump pump, bleed bleed bleed, pump at the slave, bleed, bleed, bleed, with no results as usual I decided to try something new. I recalled awhile back reading at Oilburners Riotwarrior had posted the factory procedure for bleeding this system, a procedure that doesn't even use the bleeder screw. (Also linked in our FAQ)

So I go back to his post for a refresher and then:

[Summary of factory procedure with my notes/suggestions]

1) Remove the slave cylinder.

2) Holding the slave at an angle with the open port where the line goes upwards to allow air to escape fill the slave with brake fluid through this port. (Manual shows it just being poured in, lol, have patience, a bit at a time.) Move the slave around slightly to help air escape. Once there are no more air bubbles coming out the port reinstall the slave, but not the line yet. You will get squirted with fluid a bit as the piston compresses as the slave is pushed into place. **But allow the push rod to push the piston in as needed while installing! If you manually push it all the way in it will suck air back into the slave when the piston travels out to its rested position.**

3) The manual says to remove the MC cap and gravity bleed the MC and line before hooking it back up to the slave cylinder, but I took it a step further and submersed the end of the line in a jar of brake fluid and pumped the air out of the system. I could see the air pushing through.


I hooked the line back up and holy crap Batman, I had clutch on the first push of the pedal!

Remember, when all else fails, read the directions!


 
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