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Oct 6, 2014 | 09:56 AM

truckrider814

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E-series swap

I have a chance to get a complete motor from a e-series bus. It has less miles than what I have now heads already been checked. Only problem with it is they put the wrong push rods in an it bent one rod an broke the rocker arm. I was thinking of getting this one tearing it down an going through it resealing everything an doing all the upgrades I wanted before swapping it in. My thing that I'm unsure of is what is the differences between f&e series? I do know the intake is different an the cooler location but other than that is there anything else?

My truck an the other motor are both 06's if that has anything to do with it.

Thanks

Oct 6, 2014 | 05:59 PM

Fulthrotl

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i have an 06 E-350 with 6.0.

dunno about a direct swap on a F series.... the guy that would probably know more than most anyone is m-chan, 'cause he hates working on E series vans a lot..... 'cause he knows them painfully well.

the cann bus is different. engine tunes and strategies are a bunch different.
matt at gearhead ran by some of the differences in tunes, and there was stuff that worked fine on an F series, that won't work at all on a E series. wire loom is a bunch different, obviously. dunno if the plugs will match up. if you are going to just use the core..... the evil parts would be bolt holes that are in different places, fugly stuff like that, that you discover with the thing halfway
in.

unless you know someone who has done this themselves, and they are available to walk you thru it, i'd pass on this one.

Oct 6, 2014 | 06:42 PM

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I'd stick with something you know will work. Unknowns on these modern day engines can get quit expensive.

Oct 6, 2014 | 06:57 PM

Rusty Axlerod

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From a post by m-chan68:
The entire main engine harness as well as FICM harness from your existing truck will need to be used. The upper oil pan from your old engine will also need to be re-used (E-Series upper pan has the three mounting bosses for the oil filter mount). You will also need to transfer your existing lower oil pan over (even though they appear identical, part numbers for both applications are different). You will then need to transfer all your existing externally mounted accessories (EBP tube & mounting brackets for the FICM and GPCM, oil/secondary fuel filter housing etc.). As far as internal hard parts are concerned, they are virtually identical. The higher output on F-Series applications is strictly managed by the engines' PCMs which use different strategies between the two applications.

The tread is here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-options.html

Oct 6, 2014 | 09:05 PM

m-chan68

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Rusty beat me to it.

Oct 7, 2014 | 05:09 AM

Rusty Axlerod

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I hope you don't mind me quoting you Mike, I take a lot of stock in your posts on all things 6.0

Oct 7, 2014 | 05:59 AM

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Ah I thought it was too good to be true. I was hoping I could just swap everything over real easy. Thanks for the info thats why I love this forum. I was figuring that with the extra motor I can cut labor costs an the time my truck is down.

Thanks again for the help!