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Dash temperature gauge needle on my truck stays at about the "N" in normal. I feel like that is the low end. I realize these aren't perfect gauges, but would like to know where the needle on some other folks' trucks sits during "normal" operation.
On my 89 it just reaches the line before N. It barely moves at all. Most people install an aftermarket gauge so they can accurately measure engine temps.
Mine oscillates between the the N and O. I tested the thermostat before installing it and opened at 190 and fully opened at 210 just as the spec indicate. From this I assume the first part of N is 190 and the later part of O is 210. When the gauge gets to O the engine fan also kicks on. L or L+ is 235 at the thermostat housing according to my IR thermometer.
I had ample opportunity to observe the gauge this spring when I took a 7000 mile trip with the truck. At least with mine, the factory gauge gives different readings even when the actual engine temps don't change. I could have 188 degree temps on my aftermarket gauge, and the factory gauge could read below N or almost to R. At 200, just above N to Above M. In fact, I came to discover that the factory gauge had little relation to the actual engine temps, and simply can not be trusted. Again, maybe just my truck. I couldn't find any correlation between the two once the truck had warmed up. I tried various electrical accessories to see if the issue could be a voltage drop and/or grounding issue, but the function of the factory gauge appears random. I experienced almost 30 degree variations in temps with the factory gauge barely registering any difference.
You can't really go by the factory gauge position until you have an aftermarket gauge to compare it too. Without hard numbers you do not know if the sensor for the factory gauge is failing or not, all you know is that it is moving.
the factory gauge gives different readings even when the actual engine temps don't change.
This is the problem. The stock gauges arent calibrated at all. And every truck is a bit different, even if the temps are the same.
And like snowdog was saying, same truck with different temps may not even move the gauge. I have a cheap aftermarket gauge that works great and I have seen the same issue. I've had my coolant boiling and the stock gauge didn't even notice...
Get a gauge. And while you're at it, oil pressure too. The gauge only reads 6 or so psi and says "normal".
Wow, sounds like those gauges are extremely unreliable. As I said, my truck sits at "N" most of the time. When I was doing the cooling flush and had distilled water in the system it rapidly rose to the "M" position which had me a little nervous. I've also had it get about to the M when driving over some mountain passes with a bigger load. So I always thought that when the needle was rising, it was in fact heating up, now I have no idea what to make of it. Still think it correlates with the temperature, just have no idea how to interpret the needle position.
on the r most of the time, if you have a E4OD they put a lot of heat in the rad so get a huge cooler, mine is the biggest my tranny guy stocks, and its thermostat controlled.
Snowdog79 I have the same fluctuating temp gauge issue. I noticed that it reads warmer as my fuel level drops. Full fuel and the temp stays below the O. 3/4 tank and the temp reads O, 1/2 tank and the temp moves to R. It has to be a ground issue somewhere but I haven't had time to investigate. I checked temps with an infrared thermometer and the temp doesn't vary much, roughly 185-190F regardless of what the OEM gauge says. I plan on installing a mechanical gauge as others have recommended. At least I know that the engine isn't getting hot.