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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Man, this bites! Everything that I've read, also says to remove the "spike or pin" if converting to the rubber seal. So, the spike isn't there, but it doesn't look like anyone removed it. If I use the neoprene seal (even if installed correctly) it will always leak a little if I go with the rope, it might not hold up without that spike
That's the reason I'm kinda on the fence about which seal I'd use.
One thing to consider, make your own pin.
I would get a small diameter roll pin drill a hole through the cap (according to what I've read, from the factory it's not a blind hole, it's drilled through) and use the roll pin as the spike.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 03:32 PM
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Hmmm......sounds easy enough. How much do you think you'd have to have it protruding? Not too much and not too little?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Hmmm......sounds easy enough. How much do you think you'd have to have it protruding? Not too much and not too little?
My guess? Between 1/16" and 1/8".
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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So, I've been talking to another gentleman over in the 335 forum. He has three M blocks. One is a 70's era 400, ones a 81 351M. Both of these blocks are on stands and he took a look at both rear main caps and neither has pins. Both of those cranks have the knurling and came factory with neoprene seals. The third engine is in a truck that's up and running, it is running a neoprene seal, but he's not sure if it came from the factory that way as the motor had been rebuilt before he got it.

I forgot to ask him if his running truck leaks oil, but I doubt it with how diligent he is about his vehicles.

So I'm going with the neoprene and see what happens.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Let me know how it works out.
My mind tells me it will leak, but there have to be others out there that have the same setup.
I'd be interested to see what happens.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 09:08 AM
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I'll keep you posted. Off topic, but I noticed the Club FTE tag under people's usernames this morning. That's new right?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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Yeah, noticed it last night Honda.


Good luck on your venture, hope it don't leak, I hate leaks.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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Good luck on your venture, hope it don't leak, I hate leaks.
Me too, I don't think the y make Depends that will fit a 351M!
 
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The seal is changed and everything is buttoned up. I took it for about a 10 minute ride and no leaks. Took it for a 5 min ride and saw a little oil coming down the flywheel cover not as bad as last time, but then again it's still too early to tell.

One thing I forgot to mention from before is that I noticed oil on the starter (where the black part mates with the part that is bolted to the bellhousing) and on the bottom starter bolt. I figured this would go away with the seal and pan gasket being changed. It did not
 
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