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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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Refrigerant Capacity?

1994 F-350 7.5L. I know the sticker under the hood calls for 33oz of refrigerant but if I'm not mistaken I recall a Ford service bulletin updating that amount to 38oz. I know the 96 and 97 models get that amount. Can anyone confirm?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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I can't confirm that amount, but I can provide you this.

On a '94, it takes 33 ounces, with a maximum oil charge of 7 ounces. On a '95, it shows 38 ounces of R134a and 11 ounces maximum oil charge.

Maybe someone else can provide details on why (2) F150's with 351's are different 1 year apart.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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The compressor model for my truck went to 95' in 96 and 97 they had a different model compressor. Maybe the compressor can hold more refrigerant inside it during compression charge.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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R-12 has a greater cooling capacity than R-134a. That's why the increase in coolant charge with R-134a--it's needed to achieve the same amount of cooling for the same cabin volume. The vehicles were required to be produced with R-134a (really, something other than R-12) in about 1994.

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Both capacities I listed are for R134a equipped F-150's
 
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Old Jul 27, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by timbersteel
Both capacities I listed are for R134a equipped F-150's
Like I said, there was a TSB somewhere that said the increased capacity was 38oz. Maybe its after Ford dealt with the "Black Death" issue they found the systems were generally all undercharged causing a starving compressor.
 
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Originally Posted by jroehl
R-12 has a greater cooling capacity than R-134a. That's why the increase in coolant charge with R-134a--it's needed to achieve the same amount of cooling for the same cabin volume. The vehicles were required to be produced with R-134a (really, something other than R-12) in about 1994.

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93 was the breakout year Jason. early vehicles were R-12, late production were R134-A
by 94 model year, everything was R134-A
 
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Okay, I'm no help, then. I knew the switch was somewhere in there.

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as a general rule, i use 3 cans, or 36 ounces in all R134-A ford truck systems. i have never had any problems with and AC systems i have charged.
 
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32 oz is your R-134a capacity. System takes 7 oz of PAG46. Prior years had higher R-12 capacities (44 -52 oz) and used higher amounts of mineral oil, typically 10 oz.
 
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32 oz is your R-134a capacity. System takes 7 oz of PAG46. Prior years had higher R-12 capacities (44 -52 oz) and used higher amounts of mineral oil, typically 10 oz.
33oz is the system capacity for the 94-95 R134a models, according to the sticker on the radiator core support. In 96' it changed to 38oz, which is weird, because the only thing that changed was the compressor. I'm not even sure what the change was, because the condenser, evaporator, accumulator, orifice tube, liquid line tube, and refrigerant tubes all kept the same part numbers.

I have the feeling that Ford realized they were under charging their systems an increased the specified amount of refrigerant accordingly. So I just charged up my system with 38 ounces and it blows an ice cold 40 degrees at the duct.
 
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