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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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My last vehicle actually stated in the owners manual to top off twice after the pump stops to get an accurate fuel reading. I don't usually top off my truck though.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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No aversion, just that I don't see the point in spending the time doing it, than that's all. About the only way I would go through the effort to pull the tank for more fuel capacity would be to install a bigger tank.

To each his own I guess.
I had an issue with the fuel pickup line and the level sending unit when I first bought the truck so I took an extra 60 seconds and clipped the filler and vent with PVC cutters. I wouldn't drop the tank just to clip the tubes though. It is kind of nice to go 130 miles before the fuel gage starts to move from 'F'.

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My last vehicle actually stated in the owners manual to top off twice after the pump stops to get an accurate fuel reading. I don't usually top off my truck though.
I have never topped off my tank. Once the handle clicks and shuts off, I'm done.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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No aversion, just that I don't see the point in spending the time doing it, than that's all. About the only way I would go through the effort to pull the tank for more fuel capacity would be to install a bigger tank.

To each his own I guess.
Dropping the tank is easy. Cutting off the fill and vent tubes is even easier.

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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by watchluvr4ever
My last vehicle actually stated in the owners manual to top off twice after the pump stops to get an accurate fuel reading. I don't usually top off my truck though.
Mathematicly it's irrelevant. If you are on it going to sample one or two tanks then sure. But you will never get an accurate measure of fuel economy with such a small data pool. Over the life if the vehicle you use the same amount of fuel no matter what. Stopping at the click may effect a single fill either positively or negatively but it with have an inverse effect on the next reading. Overall it really doesn't do anything. I track every fill up. Topping off would literally do nothing to change my data.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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I seem to have had this problem...the pump would stop before full...solution was to do another run at the refuel process becuase the issue was the pump was limiting the transaction to 75 bucks. So doing another transaction got my tank full.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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And to the op --- thought it was 26 gallon tanks - not 28 ?

but I too would like an easy way to get more in... especially when towing a large 5er and you go brain dead...
then are surprised by the DING ! 50 miles to empty and you are in the middle of nowhere on the interstate

That only happened ONCE, but MAN what pucker power that was !

MisterCMK, tell me what you did and pics please to see if it's worth getting my lazy butt off the sofa
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
And to the op --- thought it was 26 gallon tanks - not 28 ?

but I too would like an easy way to get more in... especially when towing a large 5er and you go brain dead...
then are surprised by the DING ! 50 miles to empty and you are in the middle of nowhere on the interstate

That only happened ONCE, but MAN what pucker power that was !

MisterCMK, tell me what you did and pics please to see if it's worth getting my lazy butt off the sofa
Speaking of getting your lazy keister off of the sofa, did you get that MyRide thing installed yet?!??!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rakm5898
i have a 2014 350 crew diesel short box. im told i have a 28 gallon tank but cant get over 22 gallons in it even though my gage show e and my read out says i have 10 milesleft until empty? dealer says the left over 6 gallons is a reserve
I believe the SWB diesel is 26 gallons. Ford has for years calibrated their fuel gauge to have at least 2 gallons when it is on Empty. A low fuel reminder triggers when the fuel gauge needle is at 1/16th. One can drive 35 miles to 80 miles before fully empty.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
Speaking of getting your lazy keister off of the sofa, did you get that MyRide thing installed yet?!??!

NO !
Now I know why it was on your garage shelf too

just haven't done it !

could have used it twice already since I'm towing the 5er again today !


So tell me about the fuel tank fix and then I'll know another thing I can not do !!!

let's see, the myride, the 2nd backup camera & harness, the tailgate lift, :0
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Hutch or Harpoon mod, plus 5.5 gallons without having to trickle any in. Used to go 27 gallons when the pump would click, now it goes 32-33 gallons. No extra time, no extra effort, just not wasting the air space in the tank.

I'm not understanding the aversion from you and Tom. It's a proven mod that was originally posted a decade ago next month right here on the SD board, guzzle put it on his page, and I've seen it on other diesel boards. I'm not exactly breaking new ground here.

Welcome to guzzle's In-tank Hutch Mod Web Page
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...ml#post1762191
Once upon a time, someone would ask the same exact question as the original poster, and someone would kindly point them at the harpoon mod, and all would be right with the world. The OP's question had to do with why is the tank "X" gallons when I can only fit "Y" gallons in it - not that he wanted to run it down so far empty that it gets air in the system.

Diesel doesn't have the EVAP emissions that gasoline does, so doesn't need any air space at the top of the tank, nor does it have a charcoal canister you can flood with fuel.

I'm not entirely sure why Ford made the diesel tanks the way they did, but it probably had something to do with accidental fuel spills from people filling up. If you're willing to be responsible for your own actions, doing the harpoon mod doesn't hurt anyone.

Of course, the OP is also talking about a 2014 - not a 1999 7.3L ... does the harpoon mod still apply here?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
NO !
Now I know why it was on your garage shelf too

just haven't done it !

could have used it twice already since I'm towing the 5er again today !


So tell me about the fuel tank fix and then I'll know another thing I can not do !!!

let's see, the myride, the 2nd backup camera & harness, the tailgate lift, :0
I don't know if the fuel tank is the same on those silly 6.7 trucks but with mine it was as simple as disconnecting the fill and vent line from the filler, remove the skid plate, remove the 2 bolts for the tank support straps and drop it down. Remove the connections on top of the tank and out it comes. Once the tank is down, remove the plastic lock ring and then reach in with a PVC cutter and cut the fill tube and the vent tube in the tank as close to the tank as possible. You will be getting diesel fuel on your arm when you do this. Fish out the pieces and put it all back together.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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It is a time-consuming job if you are doing it alone, especially if there's fuel in the tank. I miscalcuated and still had about 7 gallons sloshing around when I did it. The weight shifting from the sloshing made my makeshift 2x4 pillars very unstable. It's a lot of work to go an extra 50 miles or so unless you're in there for something else. I cleaned the tank (150K on the odometer) and installed the ITP version of the Hutch (in-tank) mod with new fuel lines in addition to the Harpoon mod.

It is a nice feeling to see the tank level on "F" until 120 miles, even if it just psychological...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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Some 6.0s had issues with the pickup check valve popping out or the pickup foot breaking off causing the engine to stall when the gauge was still between 1/4 and 1/3 a tank. Had to break the tank open for that, might as well take 15 seconds to cut the lines while I'm there.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Hutch or Harpoon mod, plus 5.5 gallons without having to trickle any in. Used to go 27 gallons when the pump would click, now it goes 32-33 gallons. No extra time, no extra effort, just not wasting the air space in the tank.

I'm not understanding the aversion from you and Tom. It's a proven mod that was originally posted a decade ago next month right here on the SD board, guzzle put it on his page, and I've seen it on other diesel boards. I'm not exactly breaking new ground here.

Welcome to guzzle's In-tank Hutch Mod Web Page
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...ml#post1762191
I'm not adverse to the mods, just sitting there for 10 minutes clicking the nozzle.
 
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