Numerous 6.0 Problems
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From: Other side of the sunrise
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From: Spanaway
So with all this turbo chatter. Yes I am playing with words somewhat.
Anyway on aircraft we wash turbines if the aircraft is operated in or
near a salt air location. I don't have to say about the dust because we
have filters. You will never guess how far away the salt water has to
be to so that you can be stated as not being in a salt air exposure.
So how many of the people that have had turbo problems are within
say 30 miles of salt water/salt flats?
But where you store/park the truck will have a large effect on how
much moisture will be pulled into the system as it cools down. Also
lots of short hops and not coming up to full operating temp is hard on
the engine as a whole.
So we can sit here and chat more but until the OP comes back and fills
in the details we are just guessing.
BTW for a helicopter is can be 250 miles before you off the salt hook.
Sean
Anyway on aircraft we wash turbines if the aircraft is operated in or
near a salt air location. I don't have to say about the dust because we
have filters. You will never guess how far away the salt water has to
be to so that you can be stated as not being in a salt air exposure.
So how many of the people that have had turbo problems are within
say 30 miles of salt water/salt flats?
But where you store/park the truck will have a large effect on how
much moisture will be pulled into the system as it cools down. Also
lots of short hops and not coming up to full operating temp is hard on
the engine as a whole.
So we can sit here and chat more but until the OP comes back and fills
in the details we are just guessing.
BTW for a helicopter is can be 250 miles before you off the salt hook.
Sean
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From: Middle Tn.
I agree Mark. My 06 and my 07 either has ever had a turbo failure. The 06 has 200K on it (first ~100k or so with the original turbo and the rest with a 03 turbo) my 07 has 150K on it and it's completely original. Never been touched. I also, like tex, never run any kind of fuel treatment. I do however run them hard.
I just have a hard time seeing the turbos as common problem. As many of these trucks that I work on I don't see that many failures. I do see my fair share of vains sticking though.
I just have a hard time seeing the turbos as common problem. As many of these trucks that I work on I don't see that many failures. I do see my fair share of vains sticking though.
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From: Plano TX and Brentwood TN
Almost only (have to account for the flukes) when other factors present themselves. Sometimes in tandem and typically related to the driver's habits.
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From: Other side of the sunrise
So with all this turbo chatter. Yes I am playing with words somewhat.
Anyway on aircraft we wash turbines if the aircraft is operated in or
near a salt air location. I don't have to say about the dust because we
have filters. You will never guess how far away the salt water has to
be to so that you can be stated as not being in a salt air exposure.
So how many of the people that have had turbo problems are within
say 30 miles of salt water/salt flats?
But where you store/park the truck will have a large effect on how
much moisture will be pulled into the system as it cools down. Also
lots of short hops and not coming up to full operating temp is hard on
the engine as a whole.
So we can sit here and chat more but until the OP comes back and fills
in the details we are just guessing.
BTW for a helicopter is can be 250 miles before you off the salt hook.
Sean
Anyway on aircraft we wash turbines if the aircraft is operated in or
near a salt air location. I don't have to say about the dust because we
have filters. You will never guess how far away the salt water has to
be to so that you can be stated as not being in a salt air exposure.
So how many of the people that have had turbo problems are within
say 30 miles of salt water/salt flats?
But where you store/park the truck will have a large effect on how
much moisture will be pulled into the system as it cools down. Also
lots of short hops and not coming up to full operating temp is hard on
the engine as a whole.
So we can sit here and chat more but until the OP comes back and fills
in the details we are just guessing.
BTW for a helicopter is can be 250 miles before you off the salt hook.
Sean
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From: Foothills, CA
Just to rag on this topic some more... Another thing we always do is give the engine/turbo some cooldown time after a hard tow. While that may not be the best for EGR, I'd rather pull and clean that than replace a turbo.
We also try to make sure all is up to operating temp before putting the hammer down. Maybe it's the little things?
And to Sean's point: we're well over a hundred miles from the coast...
We also try to make sure all is up to operating temp before putting the hammer down. Maybe it's the little things?
And to Sean's point: we're well over a hundred miles from the coast...
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From: Blue Hill Township
I don't know what you're talking about. 
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From: Blue Hill Township
Just to rag on this topic some more... Another thing we always do is give the engine/turbo some cooldown time after a hard tow. While that may not be the best for EGR, I'd rather pull and clean that than replace a turbo.
We also try to make sure all is up to operating temp before putting the hammer down. Maybe it's the little things?
And to Sean's point: we're well over a hundred miles from the coast...
We also try to make sure all is up to operating temp before putting the hammer down. Maybe it's the little things?
And to Sean's point: we're well over a hundred miles from the coast...
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From: Abilene, Texas
Also to be fair most of the ones I see with veins sticking are trucks that idle a lot and are abused. We are in the middle of "oil country" here. So most of them that come in with sticking veins are trucks that sit on location at idle all day 12+ hrs. Also to point out one more thing, once we clean them and inform the owner of how to prevent this kind of thing from happening again they never seem to have a problem after that.
That's my two cents on the subject for the small piece of the market that I see.
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