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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 02:10 PM
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engine blowby

I have a 1987 f250 with a 351w motor, I am getting oil blowing out the dipstick tube. there is no smoke coming out the exhaust and the engine runs smooth. The pvc is new and the lines are not kinked or restricted. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this besides the rings.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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You're getting good vacuum at the PVC?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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The PCV "valve" is too restrictive, either gut it buy opening up the bottom and removing the internals. Or swap it out for just an elbow.

Also I put a free flowing PCV in both valve covers.

If that sounds extreme at least check the flow of the fresh air vent on the other side.

IMO you don't need a fresh air vent and in fact fresh air vents aren't a good idea but without adequate PCV you need it.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 09:18 AM
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the vacuum seems okay.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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Well, bumping up the flow through the PVC valve, like Brute suggests, seems reasonable until you get around to running a leak down test.

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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jlmag
the vacuum seems okay.
What vacuum? where? What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by jlmag
..... The pvc is new .......
Originally Posted by irhunter
You're getting good vacuum at the PVC?
Originally Posted by irhunter
......the PVC valve, .....
PVC is Polyvinyl Chloride a type of plastic often used in pipe.

PCV is Positive Crankcase Vacuum, a condition where the pressure in the crankcase is lower then atmospheric. If you had a functioning PCV system it would be impossible for the dipstick tube to blow out oil.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Right...it's PCV. But, it is Positive Crankcase Ventilation.

It is possible to have a functioning PCV system which is just overloaded by too much blow-by. The OP was worried about his rings...and, rightly so.

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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by irhunter
Right...it's PCV. But, it is Positive Crankcase Ventilation.

It is possible to have a functioning PCV system which is just overloaded by too much blow-by. The OP was worried about his rings...and, rightly so.

Roy
Ventilation vs. Vacuum, in a way you're right, what Ford did stock is ventilation cause there is a fresh air vent and there is a PCV valve. I advocate(for many reasons) for Vacuum, no vent and no restriction caused by the completely pointless PCV valve.

Engines wear out, they have blow-by, the stock system is retarded and is barely adequate for a new well sealed engine, it must be changed.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 03:12 PM
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It's "ventilation". The key word here is "positive", not "ventilation". All crankcases are vented, they have to be. Even with the old Road Tube setup there was a breather vent to let the air in - usually steel wool was used in the oil-fill cap as a filter. The Road Tube created a vacuum as the car moved down the road. PCV just returns the gasses to the motor to be burned instead of dumping them out into the atmosphere. PCV was the very first Emission Control device.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jas88
It's "ventilation". The key word here is "positive", not "ventilation". All crankcases are vented, they have to be. Even with the old Road Tube setup there was a breather vent to let the air in - usually steel wool was used in the oil-fill cap as a filter. The Road Tube created a vacuum as the car moved down the road. PCV just returns the gasses to the motor to be burned instead of dumping them out into the atmosphere. PCV was the very first Emission Control device.
Agreed, I'm just saying vacuum is better and what should be done. A 3/8" line from intake manifold to both valve covers without restriction. Only thing better is an exhaust evac system in combination with manifold vacuum.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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The vacuum at the pvc valve is what I checked.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 11:31 PM
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The vacuum at the pvc valve is what I checked.
Why?

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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 12:52 AM
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You have a big vacuum leak somewhere. It will cause the oil to exit the dipstick, ask me how I know.

Check the line from the airbox to the valve cover on the drivers side of the engine. It may be disconnected or broken. Look also at the brake booster vacuum line for the same.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 12:54 AM
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You have a big vacuum leak somewhere. It will cause the oil to exit the dipstick, ask me how I know.
How do you know?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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There is no vacuum leak, if there was the carb. would be running lean and the engine would be running rough, which they are not.
The vent side is clear with no restriction from the valve cover to the air cleaner.
 
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