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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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I have a stock 2013 F350 6.7 auto crew cab short bed with 7500 miles. My turbo seems to flutter sometimes whenever it wants and I can never get it to do it when I want to show someone. Sometimes I've had it do it at 35mph in 3rd gear and I've had it do it at 55mph when I let off the pedal all with empty bed and no trailer. I took it to the dealer and they told me its fine, that's it not like my last truck (2008 f250 6.4) and that I should be concerned if it doesn't flutter. Does this sound correct?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman2935
I have a stock 2013 F350 6.7 auto crew cab short bed with 7500 miles. My turbo seems to flutter sometimes whenever it wants and I can never get it to do it when I want to show someone. Sometimes I've had it do it at 35mph in 3rd gear and I've had it do it at 55mph when I let off the pedal all with empty bed and no trailer. I took it to the dealer and they told me its fine, that's it not like my last truck (2008 f250 6.4) and that I should be concerned if it doesn't flutter. Does this sound correct?
turbo flutter or turbo bark?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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Its a flutter
 
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Both the 6.4 and 6.7 have different systems but both were capable of dumping the excess boost.

I don't see an issue here.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Ok thank you for your time. I just thought it was strange to do it not under a load. My last truck only did it under a load (pulling a Chevy 2500 with a enclosed trailer through a field in a foot of snow).
 
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman2935
I have a stock 2013 F350 6.7 auto crew cab short bed with 7500 miles. My turbo seems to flutter sometimes whenever it wants and I can never get it to do it when I want to show someone. Sometimes I've had it do it at 35mph in 3rd gear and I've had it do it at 55mph when I let off the pedal all with empty bed and no trailer. I took it to the dealer and they told me its fine, that's it not like my last truck (2008 f250 6.4) and that I should be concerned if it doesn't flutter. Does this sound correct?
When it's fluttering do you also hear like a metal snapping sound and do you notice it when it's in regeneration as well if you do what is happening is the exhaust valves on left head are pushing exist gases back there is a tsb to replace the valves but vehicle has to be in regeneration for tsb to apply and flutter is the exhaust pulses pushing back into the turbo which makes turbo flutter sound
 
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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No metal snapping sounds that I've noticed. Just what sounds to me as a flutter when I let off the pedal. It did it again last night when I let off the pedal pulling up to a stop sign at 20mph.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 11:43 PM
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I've got a 2013 f250. Does the same thing.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fireman2935
I have a stock 2013 F350 6.7 auto crew cab short bed with 7500 miles. My turbo seems to flutter sometimes whenever it wants and I can never get it to do it when I want to show someone. Sometimes I've had it do it at 35mph in 3rd gear and I've had it do it at 55mph when I let off the pedal all with empty bed and no trailer. I took it to the dealer and they told me its fine, that's it not like my last truck (2008 f250 6.4) and that I should be concerned if it doesn't flutter. Does this sound correct?
This may or may not help, depding on the build date of your truck. The TSB that it supersedes (11-12-14) called for the replacement of the trubo which they did with mine. This one came out late after mine was replaced under TSB 11-12-14. I had a hard time reporducing mine but finially got it to flutter with a FORD Tech in the truck.



6.7L—ENGINE SHUDDER WITH OR WITHOUT TURBO TSB 13-4-3

FLUTTER NOISE DURING STEADY THROTTLE—

900-1400 RPM—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 5/16/2012

FORD:

2011-2012 F-250, F-350, F-450

The article supersedes TSB

11-12-14 to add a NOTE

production fix date and update the Service SOME LIGHT SURGE CONDITIONS (I.E. ENGINE

Procedure. LUGGING) MAY STILL BE PRESENT UNDER

CERTAIN ENGINE LOAD AND DRIVING

ISSUE

CONDITIONS AFTER PCM RECALIBRATION. THIS

Some F-Super Duty F-250-450 pickup truck vehicles IS A NORMAL CHARACTERISTIC DUE TO

equipped with a 6.7L diesel engine and built on or CUSTOMER DRIVING HABITS AND INCREASED

before 5/16/2012 may experience an engine THROTTLE INPUT MAY BE REQUIRED IN THESE

shudder with or without turbo flutter noise around SITUATIONS.

900-1400 RPM with steady throttle. The issue may

be more noticeable at high elevation, high ambient

NOTE

temperature and/or when driving up a slight incline. PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS

The concern is not present during regeneration or VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE

while using cruise control. Some vehicles that TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH

exhibit the concern may set diagnostic trouble code ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN

(DTC) P0299. THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS

AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE

ACTION

ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE

Follow the Service Procedure to diagnose this COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING

concern. PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY

RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS

SERVICE PROCEDURE


AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

1. Check all continuous memory diagnostic trouble

codes (CMDTCs). Are any DTCs present other

WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of

than the P0299? New Vehicle Limited

Warranty Coverage And

a. Yes - This article does not apply, refer to

Emissions Warranty

Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnostic

Coverage

(PC/ED) Manual and continue with normal

Warranty/ESP coverage

diagnostics.

limits/policies/prior approvals

b. No - Proceed to Step 2. are not altered by a TSB.

Warranty/ESP coverage

2. Reprogram the powertrain control module limits are determined by the

(PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS identified causal part and

release 83.01 and higher. Calibration files may verified using the OASIS

also be obtained at Buy Motorcraft Parts Online | Official Motorcraft Auto Parts Site | FordParts.com. part coverage tool.

NOTE:


The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do

the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper

vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a

Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine

Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was

current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available

through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.

Copyright

ã 2013 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date April 8, 2013 PAGE 1

TSB 13-4-3 (Continued)

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME

130403A 2011-2012 F-Super Duty 0.6 Hr.

F-250-450 6.7L: Check

DTCs And Reprogram The

PCM Includes Time To

Clear Codes After Repair

(Do Not Use With Any

Other Labor Operations)

DEALER CODING

CONDITION

BASIC PART NO. CODE

RECALEM 04

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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fireman2935
I have a stock 2013 F350 6.7 auto crew cab short bed with 7500 miles. My turbo seems to flutter sometimes whenever it wants and I can never get it to do it when I want to show someone. Sometimes I've had it do it at 35mph in 3rd gear and I've had it do it at 55mph when I let off the pedal all with empty bed and no trailer. I took it to the dealer and they told me its fine, that's it not like my last truck (2008 f250 6.4) and that I should be concerned if it doesn't flutter. Does this sound correct?
Sorry about the bad copy/paste, it was a PDF and they don't like that. Here is the Issue and Service Procedure from the TSB.


ISSUE
Some F-Super Duty F-250-450 pickup truck vehicles quipped with a 6.7L diesel engine and built on or before 5/16/2012 may experience an engine
shudder with or without turbo flutter noise around 900-1400 RPM with steady throttle. The issue may be more noticeable at high elevation, high ambient temperature and/or when driving up a slight incline.The concern is not present during regeneration or while using cruise control. Some vehicles that exhibit the concern may set diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0299. Follow the Service Procedure to diagnose this

SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Check all continuous memory diagnostic trouble
codes (CMDTCs). Are any DTCs present other than the P0299?
a. Yes - This article does not apply, refer to
Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnostic
b.No - Proceed to Step 2.
2. Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 83.01 and higher. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 06:28 AM
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2011 with the same issue

I have had the turbo replaced and that’s when it started doing it , it didn’t flutter at all before with the factory turbo, I got the tsb done and it seamed to help a little but it still does it
 
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