Mild 460 build
pedant
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Agreed.
The only way I know of is to mock it up (use an old head gasket) after all the machine work and check for the proper length.
You don't want to hash those rockers or side load the valve guides.
The only way I know of is to mock it up (use an old head gasket) after all the machine work and check for the proper length.
You don't want to hash those rockers or side load the valve guides.
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There are knowledgeable "460 engine" people that speak well of the Torquer II manifold. Do a search on the 460 forum if you care/have-time.
Such as "I liked my Torker II on my dually better than the Stealth. But the stealth might be just a nats but better with a load and hauling a trailer.
Stealth also needed twice the accelerator squirt than the Torker. Torker actually pulled away better with a empty truck like 1000 rpm in 4 would pull away with no spark knock. Stealth has trouble with that.
4th gear runs from 40 to 80 much better with torker II. "
from Torker II Vs Stealth 8012. - 460 Ford Forum
And Edelbrock Torker Manifolds ?'s - 460 Ford Forum
I don't have any first hand experience with this manifold, however as I said, I would go with a dual-plane manifold as my first choice for a truck build.
Good luck
Such as "I liked my Torker II on my dually better than the Stealth. But the stealth might be just a nats but better with a load and hauling a trailer.
Stealth also needed twice the accelerator squirt than the Torker. Torker actually pulled away better with a empty truck like 1000 rpm in 4 would pull away with no spark knock. Stealth has trouble with that.
4th gear runs from 40 to 80 much better with torker II. "
from Torker II Vs Stealth 8012. - 460 Ford Forum
And Edelbrock Torker Manifolds ?'s - 460 Ford Forum
I don't have any first hand experience with this manifold, however as I said, I would go with a dual-plane manifold as my first choice for a truck build.
Good luck
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Nope. BUT, who knows what errors there might be on this one. So, turn it over - does it say China? If not, on the top do you have Weiand twice? The firing order? I don't know if the US-made 8012 had those things, but the 8010 for the 400 did.
pedant
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Oooooh, shiny! 
The part where it says China???
Darn thing looks nice, but it seems the waterpump bypass hose is going to be tough, if this pic is any indication...
Dang that thing is long compared to the Performer.
(Random photos stolen from the 'net)
The part where it says China???
Darn thing looks nice, but it seems the waterpump bypass hose is going to be tough, if this pic is any indication...
Dang that thing is long compared to the Performer.
(Random photos stolen from the 'net)
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Let me restate the situation. Here's a comparison between the "old" and "new" Weiand 8010's:
- US-made:
- Says Weiand on two runners, one in the front and one in back
- Has the firing order cast on top
- Has relatively rectangular ports
- Has a small heat-riser passage
- Chinese-made:
- Says China on the bottom
- Has a large flange on the front that covers part of the thermostat opening and completely covers one of the bolt holes
- Has oval ports
- Has a huge heat-riser, much larger than any manifold I've seen
pedant
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It's not a "fake", Holley is now manufacturing in China.
Call them "new stock" and "old stock" if you like, but be clear that neither manifold is counterfeit.
Call them "new stock" and "old stock" if you like, but be clear that neither manifold is counterfeit.
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So it is possible that someone made a knock-off, which was why I said it that way. I recently saw a report on how many things we are buying are actually knock-offs and it was staggering. Right down to the boxes and instructions.
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Very true. Why didn't I think of that? Thanks for correcting me. I've edited the original post.
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Is the front water outlet threaded? The one parallel to the water pump outlet.
or did it come with a plug of some sort. On my stealth I had to "thread in" a plug to block that outlet. Your manifold doesn't look like the hole is threaded (maybe its just the photo).
or did it come with a plug of some sort. On my stealth I had to "thread in" a plug to block that outlet. Your manifold doesn't look like the hole is threaded (maybe its just the photo).
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86 - Just because the 8010 had Weiand on the top twice doesn't mean the 8012 did. And the folks in China appear to be proud of their country and put "China" on many things they make, so yours probably isn't.
CB - Does yours have Weiand on it twice? Does it look just like 86's?
CB - Does yours have Weiand on it twice? Does it look just like 86's?
