More steering column questions
See if you can find any engineering numbers on the column and post them, I'll see if I can ID the column.
The text section of the parts catalog is required to get the complete part number by adding the prefix and suffix to the basic part number.
4WD: Upper steering shaft with/without P/S makes no difference! 2WD does make a difference. P/S first offered for F100/250 4WD in 1973.
D1TZ-3524-C .. Upper Steering Shaft-36 3/8" long: 1971/72 F100/250 4WD - 1973 F100/250 4WD before serial number S40,001.
D3TZ-3524-F .. Upper Steering Shaft-36 3/8" long: 1973 F100/250 4WD from serial number S40,001 - 1974/75 F100/250 4WD.
D6TZ-3524-B .. Upper Steering Shaft-32 5/16" long: 1976/77 F100/250 4WD.
D8TZ-3524-A .. Upper Steering Shaft-Use with Tilt Wheel-32 5/16" long: 1978/79 F100/350 2WD & 4WD.
D8TZ-3524-C .. Upper Steering Shaft-Use without Tilt Wheel-32 1/8" long: 1978 F150/250 4WD & 1979 F350 4WD.
1967/77: NSS located on steering column / 1978/79: NSS located on transmission. A/T first offered for F100/250 4WD in 1973.
D5TZ-3B676-B (replaced C7TZ-3B676-A) = 1967/75 F100/250 4WD lower steering shaft and coupler is composed of multiple pieces.
This coupler connects to the input shaft of the steering gear with a clamp and thru bolt.
1976/79 F100/250 4WD lower steering shaft and coupler is a one piece assembly. A rag joint bolts to its lower flange, then attaches to the input shaft of steering gear.
I am still a little confused. So for every year power steering was available the 4wd upper shafts are the same for power or manual steering.
They are different lengths up through the years though. For example a 74 upper shaft is longer than a 77 upper shaft.
If I have a upper shaft that is 36 3/8" long it won't work well in my 77 F150. I need a 32 5/16" long shaft
Is this correct?
Is the part number anywhere on the shaft?
The power steering systems in 4WD trucks through '77 use the same column whether its manual or power steering.
2WD trucks use different length columns for manual or power steering.
In regards to your original question. You can do what you want to do, provided the 2WD column is from a manual steering car.
To answer your other question, Ford hasn't put the actual part number on any parts since the 1950's. Any numbers that you do find are "engineering numbers" or casting numbers. The engineering numbers can be crossed over to the actual part number.
When I see over 4" difference in shaft lengths. (all for 4x4's)
73-75= 36 3/8"
76-77= 32 5/16"
I have to ask if they are compatible or are there other components that need to be changed to make it work. 4" is a big difference!
Is the lower shaft shorter on the earlier trucks?
Where you're going off track is, the 4WD guts need to match the truck you're puting the column in. What length the shaft is on a 78, 79, 75, or whatever doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the vehicle you're working on.
Stop overthinking this and just concentrate on the information that pertains the year of the truck you're working on. Everything else is unecessary information that will just cloud the issue and confuse you further.
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The 2WD with manual steering, the 4WD with power assist steering and the 4WD with manual steering from s/n U60,001 through 1977 all use the same steering column tube. This means that the "guts" from any one of these columns will fit the other's column tube, regardless of the steering shaft length.
What determines the length of the shaft that you need to use is the truck you're working with.
Above is the first line in my first post.
The truck I am working on is a 77.
The guts I have are out of a 74.
If the shaft is considered part of the guts then as per Bill they are different therefore they do not match the guts of the truck I am working on.
Correct?
And this is what you asked:
My question is (finally) can I get a 2wd column out of a 76 or 77, remove the shaft and install the shaft from the 73/75 4x4 column into it.
Because you're working on a '77 and not a 73/75 truck this is the shaft you need to use:
D6TZ-3524-B .. Upper Steering Shaft-32 5/16" long: 1976/77 F100/250 4WD.








for all configurations whether it be 2wd or 4wd.
