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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Spare Engine For Parts?

I have considered picking up a used motor for parts. What would be a good price? I know condition will have huge bearing on value. Here is one in my area, just curious to hear thoughts on it.
1999-2003 Ford 7.3 Powerstroke ENGINE complete MOTOR
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Old May 25, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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Well, here is the thing with the Turbo Engines. They don't do well sitting over time. The seem to rust and seize. The Pre Turbo DI Engine on the other hand can sit for years and start right up with little or no issues. Primarily due to fuel delivery, oil supply methods and casting.

If I were seeking a used engine for parts the history of the engine would be most important to me. For instance: Why is it available, how did it become available (Accident, Catastrophic Engine Failure, Compression, etc.), how many known miles, and where and how was it stored - Wrapped, dry area, etc. The S/N will tell the design history and in-service date.

For about $7k ($4k if you do the preponderance of work) you can have a nicely rebuilt unit. The big things that fail over time is the wrist pin and connecting rod ends which can be replaced and shaven by a machine shop (few people do this and this leads to a disaster down the road). Oversized Pistons and a cylinder re-sleeve here and there. Heads can also be done for a reasonable cost. IMO the two big killers of these engines are lack of maintenance and letting them sit. A daily driver will last a lifetime I=with TLC. But, it can be expensive to both maintain and ignore.

For the most part, these cores (98 on) are becoming difficult to find and do cost now. Sellers often know the demand and ask for top dollar. However, Cranks and Cams are just about every where. So, what you would save buying a core could be put into a rebuild and more bang for the buck. Of course having good LPOP, HPOP, Injectors is also a great savings while doing a refresh. New Cup, O-Rings, and Gaskets, and seals run about $800 for the kit. You can also refresh the HPOP, seals, O-rings, Turbo re-fresh, etc. Shipping costs also can become expensive as these weigh about 900 lb. +.

So, I guess it comes down to a few questions you should ask yourself.

1. Why do I need it. - What do I want to accomplish? and what is the best way to achieve what I want?
2. Is the money better spent elsewhere.
3. Can I afford to have my truck down for 30 days?
4. Do I need a replacement engine which could be a paperweight when its tore down and inspected? Do I want an agreement with the seller?

History is everything when buying a unit. No history, no buy.

My question to you is: Why are you considering buying an Engine?
 
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Old May 26, 2014 | 01:59 AM
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Looks to me to be an early-99 motor, at best.

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Old May 26, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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I was thinking more along the line of having the parts on hand. Both those which may not need work and those that need rebuilding so I could yank a part off the old motor, get it rebuilt and shorten a repair job. Not so much to have an engine I would keep and save to install complete later.
My truck is an E-99 and I was looking at that to see if it was too but I don't have the experience to tell. If it is a late 99 the parts to upgrade mine might make it a worthwhile buy for the whole thing.
Other than the turbo and air components and injectors what else is different about the E-99?
 
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Old May 26, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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Some ways to tell: an early 99 won't have an intake air heater. The early 99 turbocharger compressor housing will have 4 bolts, late 99 and up will have 5. The compressor housing and backplate, manifold spider, plenums, up pipes and injectors are different from early to late 99.
 
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Old May 26, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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Looks like an early bird to me also. Just got done doing the late 99 swap and that's exactly what my motor looks like.
 
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If you could find out the S/N on the Left Valve Cover we could give you a list of applications.
 
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