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Old May 7, 2014 | 08:43 PM
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So today we took the 5er to Richmond, VA. Better half is doing some work down there.

So from Frederick all the way past Quantico, VA It is raining pretty good. Lot of water pooling and heavy traffic. Still running at about 68 mph though.

I mention this as I think it is the issue.

My kitchen slider wiring is frayed now. Don't know if you will be able to tell in the pics but it appears to me that with all the rain and stuff it forced the wiring to rub on the tire.

It is the only thing that makes sense to me.

I think I have about 8K on this rig and it has never happened before.

So...how to prevent it from happening again? That one I don't know as those wiring have to move with the slider.

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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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Is that loop of wiring there normally like that? And is the slide fully extended in the pic? I think the wiring is left too long. I'd be looking to try and tie the harness up under the trailer somewhere so it can unwind to full extension, but not be loose once extended, and not have that "loop" anymore. I'm not really a trailer guy, but I deal with heavy equipment all day, and rubbed wires are a way of life.................
 
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Yeah the slide is fully extended. It has always had thst loop.
 
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by senix
Yeah the slide is fully extended. It has always had thst loop.
I personally would try to ziptie the harness shorter so that the loop is no longer there. Looks like a one size fits most, and it may be a bit long for yours.
 
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:14 PM
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That loop is pretty common. My fiver has the same thing, but hasn't frayed (yet). Some slides have a spring attached that pulls the wire up and more out of the way and you might try something like that. Some rigs also run solid conduit that runs into the belly and the wire is uncased under the belly, but all you see under the slide is solid conduit. It is not common any more given the added expense, but it did a nice job of protecting the wire. The conduit slid in and out with the slide.

It would be nice if the manufacturers did a neater job with this part of the electric, but than my list of what I wish they would do would take all night.

Do make sure when you slide is in it is hanging free and not rubbing a tire.

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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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I don't know where to zip tie it at this point. But it does need to be shorter
 
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by senix
I don't know where to zip tie it at this point. But it does need to be shorter
I'd imagine it's got to be tied to the frame somewhere to keep it away from the slide mechanicals................But again, I've yet to stare at one so I could be off.....................
 
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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I don't know where to zip tie it at this point. But it does need to be shorter
Scott,

I think the wire comes in a precut length and the manufacturers just go with it as it comes. It is just going to run to a J box so shortening it is no big deal, if that will solve your problem. Usually it is getting the J box that is the problem. Most often it hangs where it doesn't look great, but doesn't cause a problem.

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Ours have the same type of wire but ours is held out of the way with some wire ties that hold it out of the way, they are just left in a loop so they can ride on the hydraulic ram. They also aren't close to the tires so if they hang down nothing would happen to them.

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Old May 8, 2014 | 05:07 AM
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I will have to look into the spring or tie to get them out of the way. All the rest of the slides are of a shorter wires so they don't present a problem.

With some electrical tape I can repair those without taking them off. I'd rather not break the seal anywhere if I don't have to.
 
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Ouch... not a fun surprise ...

I never liked the way my last 5ers umbilical plug rubbed the top of the tailgate and drug along the bed so I hung a bungee cord from one of the screws on the under side of the 5er overhang so it held the loop off the truck....

and on our current 5er,
the kitchen slide has electrical, propane, and water for the icemaker on a telescopic arm that 'jack-knifes' when closed.

it's somewhat like a tv wall mount that folds in on itself when it comes in,
then straightens out when the slide extends...
all the cords, piping, etc... are loosely tied to it

good luck - maybe some simple springs, bungee cords, etc... tied so they are stretched out when the slide is out and pulls the cords back when closed would do it...

just inspect where the slide mechanism moves so you have clearance...
 
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Old May 8, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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Good ideas. I will pull the slide in and see what goes and then I will figure something out.
 
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That sucks, but I'm sure you'll get something worked out to keep it from repeating. My slides use a triple hinged two piece channel setup that folds snug against itself when the slide is in and hinges out to a wide V when slide is out, wires are fixed to the channels so no sags.

Off topic but that little bit of campsite seen below the slide in the one pic looks like the Americamps Campground on Airpark in Ashland, am I right?
 
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That sucks, but I'm sure you'll get something worked out to keep it from repeating. My slides use a triple hinged two piece channel setup that folds snug against itself when the slide is in and hinges out to a wide V when slide is out, wires are fixed to the channels so no sags.

Off topic but that little bit of campsite seen below the slide in the one pic looks like the Americamps Campground on Airpark in Ashland, am I right?
You are correct. Airpark in Ashland. first time here.
 
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First thing i would do is climb underneath and see where it runs to.. You may be able to loosen a clamp and pull the excess into the belly of the trailer. who knows the clamp may be loose and pulled some of the cable out.
 
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