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Old May 4, 2014 | 06:38 PM
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Sorry.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by trozei
I used a vacuum gauge to tune mine. It's got 22" at idle.

I guess I'll just get my '73 going. I don't want to spend money on the truck just to pass emissions.
To fix the exh. leak other then doing like what you said dropping tranny an all.
1. I'd have shop if you don't have a welder cut about 12-16" of the head pipe and have the shop weld a flange on each side where it was cut out of and place a gasket between the flanges bolt it back in place..

2. Now call it fixed or just cut the head pipe and re-weld it back together.
Then call it fixed
That's the ez way
 
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Old May 4, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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Wait a minute! Why would a leak at the collector cause any lean problems? At the ports, maybe, but at the collector?

What happens when you are running open headers???
 
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Old May 4, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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351 has a valid question. How can an exhaust header leak lead to a lean reading?
Where's Hio?
 
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Old May 5, 2014 | 12:13 AM
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351 has a valid question. How can an exhaust header leak lead to a lean reading?
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This is old skool stuff, You open your headers no back pressure Right.
When a drag motor is tuned it's done with headers open un-corked runs leaner. A race motor on the streets will load up the spark plugs with closed headers as it's jetted richer.
A shorter then 18" header pipe can damage the valves.

This why some times when runner headers you have to go to larger main jets. RUNS TO LEAN!
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Old May 5, 2014 | 03:01 AM
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Whenever you throw on a better exhaust system you pretty well always have to compensate at the carburetor for it by jetting rich. I remember explaining it in detail on here before when the information was fresh in my mind but I can't for the life of me find the post. During the exhaust pulses, exhaust can be leaked out and fresh air can be sucked in. An exhaust leak allows exhaust gases to escape early as well as draw in outside air and therefore allows for inconsistent, premature exhaust cooling and velocity decrease. I wish I could find that post I made...

On a modern car, the O2 sensor detects the lean condition at the exhaust and compensates by sending more fuel to the cylinder. It is therefore very difficult for an EFI car to have any burnt valves from an exhaust leak, but fuel economy will suffer.
 
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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by f100today
Is there not an "age limit" for vehicles that need the sniff test??????

2. Move to Texas where there is no sniff test required on vehicle 30 years old or older. Or registered as a classic or antique.
We don't do sniff tests, but at least three inspectors my little town rejected mine because of no heat riser tube terminating into the air breather. An exhaust guy came up with a work-around the met the test for me. Now, when I install the EFI manifolds, going to have to figure out another way to skin that cat.
 
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Old May 5, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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I just got a younger fellow who just said, "Wow, I like the paint!" and never popped my hood.
 
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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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The issue here is not open headers and mixture. I think we all get it that raw exhausts reduce back pressure, increase scavenging, require richer jets to keep up the fuel/air ratio.
The issue is a leak at the collector as 351 has posed.
Negative pressure at a collector leak sucking air back in? Hardly.
Good discussion.
 
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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CougarJohn
The issue here is not open headers and mixture. I think we all get it that raw exhausts reduce back pressure, increase scavenging, require richer jets to keep up the fuel/air ratio. The issue is a leak at the collector as 351 has posed. Negative pressure at a collector leak sucking air back in? Hardly. Good discussion.
Exactly, if it was leaking at the collector, and pulling fresh air in, that would help further combustion and reduce emissions even more.

But the idea of it pulling air in is a long shot.


This uses the same theory that the newer diesel trucks are using. They have slits in the exhaust pipe to draw fresh air to help post combustion and cool exhaust gases.
 
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