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Old May 3, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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AE Data Review Please

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Wondering if you guys could review my AE data and tell me what you think.
Truck seems to run ok but I'm sure it could be better. I'm only getting about 12 MPGs on it right not. This data is on fresh Delo 15-40w LE oil with about 10 miles on it. I was running T6 but it was drinking the oil like no tomorrow. I was or I still am having a smoke issue. I think that might have been resolved by going back to the Delo. As far as I could tell driving it at dusk/dark I couldn't see any smoke blowing out the tail pipe.
 
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Old May 3, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Oops, I guess the file wasn't attached. Maybe this is it?
 
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Old May 3, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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I can't read it on my iPad. Stupid Apple.
 
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Old May 4, 2014 | 05:27 AM
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I can open it, but it's actually in Word format. If you save it in regular .csv format, then just change the file extension to .doc and attach it, that should work.
 
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Old May 4, 2014 | 06:15 AM
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Dang it,
I know it is saved as a .cvs.
When I went to change it as a .doc as per Tugly's instructions from AE class II, it kept saying it was an invalided file. I an online file converter to change it to a .doc. I guess that didn't work. I'll spend sometime working on it today.

Thanks for the reply guys.

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Old May 4, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Must be a WinD'ohs thing. Does it give you the option to use the .doc file extension in spite of it thinking it's invalid? It should be as simple as right clicking the file and choosing to rename it, but then again, Micro$oft is involved in the process
 
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Old May 4, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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Yeah. Right-click on the CSV file and rename the CSV to PNG... that will work too. Don't forget to leave the dot in there.

Oh... and this is how you can graph your own data:

 
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I was able to get the data I had saved sent to me from home and the file is a .doc.csv, which I know from all the reading, I can not post the .csv to the fourm. I've tried multiple ways of renaming the file from . PNG, <o></o>
. doc PNG, . doc,. etc. When I rename the file there doesn't appear to be any issues. But, when I then go to open the file in MS Excel, it transfer over but all the data acts like it is stored in one colume. I can’t seem to figure out if this is normal and then the data needs to be reformatted? To me it would be an issue. Can you guys let ne know if I'm doing something wrong or it is normal and I can post the file. I was really hoping to get some opinions on my data so I could work on repairs tomorrow if possible.<o></o>
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Also, when I try to attach the file to the forum, I keep getting an invalid file notice?
 
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I can't seem to figure out what in the world I'm doing wrong with getting the data posted. I have followed every example on the forum pages that I can find and still noting works. I keep getting an "Invalid File" every time I try to post the data.

I have even went through the "intranet trusted" sites setup and that hasn't worked either. My file is only 13 KB. I wouldn't think that is to big?

Any other ideas?

Thanks for all the help.

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Old May 4, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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The site may be detecting the file's content type and disallowing it. If a .txt file is one of the allowed types, try using a .txt extension, or if it really comes right down to it, I suppose you could copy/paste the csv data inside of [code][/code] tags. At least that way someone could copy/paste it into a file and import it into a spreadsheet.
 
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Try again, then make a screen shot of the problem and save it in your album. You can then post the image.
 
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Hello All,

Hope everyone is having a good evening.

If this works, the AE data I have, I was able to save it as a .txt. file. If it will load I hope you guys who are willing to look at it and can change it to what ever you need to get the data.

Also, Tugly and Pikachu, Thank you for responding again. If this doesn't work then I'll make the screens shots to show you guys what I'm seeing.
 
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Old May 6, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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The file is there and I can make a graph from Excel or Open Office Calc, but it's corrupted for AE to open.

For those who want to achieve attaching a file that can be used for AE playback, right-click on the file and select "Rename". Change the letters to the right of the dot from CSV to TXT or DOC.



Do not use software to convert the file, I've tried this many times... software will corrupt the data and make it unreadable by AE.

If you don't see the ".CSV" on your file, then your file extensions are "hidden", and that is a setting in your computer operating system.

In order to use your file after attaching it to the forum, you will need to do what needs to be done when downloading from the forum: Change that TXT back to a CSV.

As I said, I can make a graph from what you sent, but you can't with AE... because the formatting in the file has been altered. I will need to make the time to sit down and prepare a graph, so hang in there my friend.
 
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Old May 9, 2014 | 07:26 AM
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Got it and attached it. Anyone can now download it, right-click on the file and "Rename" the DOC to CSV, then read it in their AE software.

The first thing I noticed on a separate file was the high altitude - about 12 PSI on the EBP and MAP with KOEO.

The second thing I noticed was peak boost reaches about 14 or 15 - that's a little low, but maybe you guys in the clouds expect this. Backpressure reaches about 20 at WOT, nothing to see here.

ICP rides nice at about 2800 PSI, but your IPR reaches about 44-45% to do that. This is a healthy HPOP, but your IPR may climb upwards of 50 if you shoot for 3000 PSI with a tuner (you just want to stay out of the 60s if you can).

At first it looked like the truck was too fast to make sense, then I looked at the time stamps on all the data samples - your AE is sampling a round of sensors every 6.5 seconds. This is very slow sampling, and a lot can happen in 1.5 seconds (sampling rate on my AE), let alone 6.5. We need to work on speeding that up.

Your FIPW has a bad multiplier in it (not your fault). You need to adjust your Fuel Injector Pulse Width "Scale Value" to 10 to compensate.

Your maximum speed is just a tad optimistic, you may want to adjust that to 100.

The fuel is doing what it's supposed to do, but I'm not so sure about the air side of things. What happens if you cap off the red line to your wastegate control?
 
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Old May 10, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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First off,

I would like to thank you Rich for taking the time and reviewing my data and offering your knowledge with AE. I know with all the stuff we have going on these days how time is in such short supply for all of us and the fact that you have helped so many of us on FTE it is a true testament of your giving nature. Once again, Thank You.

Peak Boost- I agree with you, I've always thought it was a bit low and I am still working towards finding a leak. I've yet to find it even with a leak detector.

ICP- At this time, no plans for a tuner yet. I want to get this truck back to 100% and get fuel milage higher than 12mpg on a good day.

Sampling Rate- What do you recommend? Do you setup all your sensors to sample at the same rate?

FIPW- Soory, I thought I had set the scale value at "10". I'll change that.

Speed- Oops, I had a max value of 110.0 set in there. I went back and looked at the scaling I had setup. I had changed the "Max Scale Vaule" in order to get a reading on AE that compared to to the MPH that I was traveling that also compared to my GPS.

I have never caped off the "Red Line" to the turbo. I will cap it off and collect some more data with your recommended changes as soon as I can get a few minutes for retesting. I did however make sure the wastage opened with air pressure when I rebuilt it. I don't remember the exact air pressure but I was thinking 28psi. or 30psi. I'll try to find my notes.

Also, if i understand your conclusion correctly regarding my ICP and IPR, it is your opinion, that the oil system seems to be pretty healthy and I more than likely am leaking oil at the turbo seals rather than an injector O-ring?

Again, thank you and I am looking forward to your response.
 
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