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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Help!! system not charging

here's what I've got: 1984 Bronco with a 351 and a 60 amp alt.
here's what's happening: system is not charging...changed alternators, still not charging. Changed voltage regulator, still not charging. Traced all the wires from the alt, they are fine. Am I missing something simple here, or what? I'm at my wit's end with this problem...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Did you take the Alternator to a parts house to have it tested yet?

How did you determine that it isn't charging?

Hopefully you didn't remove a battery cable while the engine was running !
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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I tested it by using a voltmeter on the battery posts...it was at about 12 volts before I started the truck, and it stayed about the same after it was running. If I put on the lights and the heater with the truck idling, it drops a bit (to around 11.75 volts).
Why couldn't I pull the ground cable off and test it that way? Seems if it was charging, the truck should still run, no? It's an 84 so no computer...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Did you rev it up or just let it idle?

The voltage regulator requires about 800 RPM to kick in and raise the voltage.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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hmmm
I revved it up while in the truck, and the volt guage inside didn't move. I never revved it up under the hood to check my voltmeter...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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You have to have the engine revved while you are observing the TESTING volt meter.

You can also test load voltage.


At idle.
Turn on :

headlights
Heater
Windshield Wipers

Then Test at 850 RPM
 
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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thanks for the help Million...I'l check tomorrow,,,my fingers are crossed...didn't realize it took the higher rpms...
my Chevy's aren't like that and I assumed Ford was the same...
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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Help!! system not charging

well...this truck is still not charging...alternator tests well (90 amps) put a new voltage regulator in it..still no good. I tested all the wires from the alt and they test fine...the stator wire goes straight from the alt to a small module on the firewall...could that be the problem? thats the only thing that is left that I haven't changed. I really can't see that stopping the alt from charging the battery, tho. I am stumped...really hate to have to take it into the shop for this..
Anyone have any other suggestions?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Check for corrosion on the regulator plug, also check the connections on the alternator, and check the connection on the starter relay (Bat + Terminal).
You need 12 volts on the light green/red striped wire on the regulator plug to "turn on" the regulator. It appears to be a direct feed off the starter relay Bat + terminal thru a fusible link....maybe the link is open
 
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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Well what I would do is run a wire from your batterie pos post directly to your field on the alt. If you have a defective field wire you won't get any magnetic field to cut flux lines to induce a charge. Also very important. Run your hand along your pos cable and check for hard spots in the cable. Corrossion will run up the cable in a D/C sorce. If you encounter a hard spot peal the insolation with a knife..If you find corrossion replace the defective section or the intire cable. Also I have seen it on some cars and trucks that a defective regulator or alt with out changing both at the same time will blow each other out. especially 1973 fords to 1978. Also your charge voltage should be around 14.2 volts if it's working right.
 
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