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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Reverse light issue on a 76

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I've been working on getting a 76 F-150 SWB/4x4/C6/360 running and I'm down to electrical. All the lights work as designed including marker, brake, turn signal, hazard, headlights and high beams EXCEPT my reverse lights. The come on intermittently and it's really making me crazy. I've pulled my neutral safety switch and cleaned the contacts, realigned it and traced the wires and they all look solid. The neutral safety switch is working as I can't start the truck in any gear but Park and Neutral. I've inspected the wire harness from front to back and pulled all ground connections and made sure they all had bare metal contact.

My question is, does the neutral safety switch work the reverse lights on this truck or am I chasing a gremlin? IF the neutral safety switch doesn't activate the reverse lights, where do I need to look next?

Any help will be much appreciated!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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I've got the same problem with my 79 only mine is a 4 speed. I hope you get some help maybe it will help me too...
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Batman7593
does the neutral safety switch work the reverse lights on this truck!
To answer your question, yes, the NSS also operates the back up lights.
It does sound like an alignment problem with the NSS.
There's a particular procedure to adjust it. I'll look it up and update this post.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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If it is not the NSS, and if you already haven't, check the part(socket) the bulb plugs into. on the harness. On my 74 they were corroded and after I replaced them my reverse lights worked.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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NSS switch adjustment
1. loosen the two switch attaching screws.
2.Hold the selector lever against the neutral stop.
3.Move the sliding block on the neutral switch to the neutral position. Working from the rear side of the switch, insert a 0.091" diameter gauge pin (#43 drill bit) in the gauge pin hole.
4. Slide the switch as needed to permit the switch actuating lever on the steering column to contact the switch sliding block.
5. Tighten the two attaching screws and remove gauge pin.
6. Check the operation of the switch.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 74F2504by4
If it is not the NSS, and if you already haven't, check the part(socket) the bulb plugs into. on the harness. On my 74 they were corroded and after I replaced them my reverse lights worked.
If the switch adjustment is okay, then I'd do like 74F2504by4 said and check the bulb sockets.
The contacts can be corroded or they could also be weak and not making good contact with the bulbs.
Although, if both lights are doing the same thing I think that would eliminate the sockets as a problem. I would think that a socket problem would affect only one socket, not both.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions! So I've already realigned my NSS as stated above and I'm getting current when I run an external load to the bulb sockets. Maybe the NSS is just bad? It may be cheaper just to run a physical switch mounted in the cab from the battery to the reverse lights
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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C7TZ-7A247-A .. NSS (Motorcraft SW-600) / Available from auto parts stores.

Applications: 1967/77 F100/350 all A/T's.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bigblock
I've got the same problem with my 79 only mine is a 4 speed. I hope you get some help maybe it will help me too...
300bigblock - you said you had a four speed manual? If so you need a different NSS switch than the one mike showed a picture of. Standard Motor products makes the LS-200 for the manual 4spd.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
C7TZ-7A247-A .. NSS (Motorcraft SW-600) / Available from auto parts stores.

Applications: 1967/77 F100/350 all A/T's.
Thanks mikeo0o0o0, 74F2504x4 and NumberDummy!!

I'll let you know if it works
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
If the switch adjustment is okay, then I'd do like 74F2504by4 said and check the bulb sockets.
The contacts can be corroded or they could also be weak and not making good contact with the bulbs.
Although, if both lights are doing the same thing I think that would eliminate the sockets as a problem. I would think that a socket problem would affect only one socket, not both.
not in my case, both sockets were bad
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Batman7593
300bigblock - you said you had a four speed manual? If so you need a different NSS switch than the one mike showed a picture of. Standard Motor products makes the LS-200 for the manual 4spd.

I didn't think it would have a nss
 
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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SUCCESS!

Well I got the new NSS and plugged it in and manually moved the slider over the contacts AND............no worky Before I took a blow torch to the old girl, I inhaled deeply, stepped back and took a much needed numerous day break

I had some time this afternoon and took the dash apart again and started tracing wires. Lo and behold, I found where the reverse light wires come through the firewall and into the engine bay and into some sort of pigtail with a bladed wire jumper connecting both sides. Now I don't know if this was stock or simply someone's joke so I cut the sucker off and tied both ends together and tested.......GLORIOUS REVERSE LIGHTS IN REVERSE GEAR!!

I really appreciate everyone's help!!

PM me if you want a pic of the pigtail as I am not able to upload pics yet
 
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Batman7593
SUCCESS!

Well I got the new NSS and plugged it in and manually moved the slider over the contacts AND............no worky Before I took a blow torch to the old girl, I inhaled deeply, stepped back and took a much needed numerous day break

I had some time this afternoon and took the dash apart again and started tracing wires. Lo and behold, I found where the reverse light wires come through the firewall and into the engine bay and into some sort of pigtail with a bladed wire jumper connecting both sides. Now I don't know if this was stock or simply someone's joke so I cut the sucker off and tied both ends together and tested.......GLORIOUS REVERSE LIGHTS IN REVERSE GEAR!!

I really appreciate everyone's help!!

PM me if you want a pic of the pigtail as I am not able to upload pics yet
That L shaped bladed connector is factory. Crapy? Yep! I ditched that sucker as well. Prime place for corrosion.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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Mine dont work either, maybe i will start at that connection first.

I just figure if they cant see that im backing up, sucks to be them...
 
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