EFI manifolds vs headers
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From: Kalispell, MT
Similar flow characteristics but they can be had on the cheap from the salvage yard instead of spending a couple hundred bucks on the headers. Not to say one is better than the other, it just boils down to budget and personal preference IMO.
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From: Spokane, WA
And the headers are usually a PITA. Cracking, breaking, excess heat in the engine compartment, and they severely limit access to the starter are some of the reasons why EFI manifolds may be preferred to headers.
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Headers are better flow-wise, but only marginally. You won't notice a difference unless you're really pushing for maximum horsepower. A lot of people see the cost, risk, and maintenance involved with headers and say, "Nuh uh!" and go find themselves some EFI manifolds for cheap.
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I have used a Hedman Header for uh ... three years. It completely blocks access to my starter, meaning if the starter fails I have to remove intake/exhaust manifolds. Also, I had a problem with it getting too hot under the hood and the fuel boiling in the carb. I had to install a heat shield. I'm also convinced the hot air is hurting my in town mpg, and am soon to go with a cold air intake.
I love the mean look of the header, but am changing to EFI soon. My only consolation is using a dual exhaust system with nice mean tone. k
I love the mean look of the header, but am changing to EFI soon. My only consolation is using a dual exhaust system with nice mean tone. k
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I have the Hedmans. I think they're a big reason why my engine hesitates. I'll have them ceramic coated to fix that. I think a heat shield is a good idea as well. What boggles me though is that I don't understand how the free flowing Hedmans create more heat under the carburetor than the factory ram horn-type thing.
My starter is blocked too, but like you I didn't buy the 302 mini starter so to get at it, the headers have to come off. Oh well, mine's new. Should be a long time until I need to pull the headers for it.
My starter is blocked too, but like you I didn't buy the 302 mini starter so to get at it, the headers have to come off. Oh well, mine's new. Should be a long time until I need to pull the headers for it.
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I had the hedman header when I first did my rebuild they were great looked cool but developed too much heat under the hood it even travel into the cab I went through two starters I'm sure the header had a big effect on that
I said this is enough went on ebay bought a set of new efi mani's from Ford I tell you I couldn't tell the difference performance wise from headers to manifolds. I do like the manifolds I had the exhaust shop clear the starter so im happy with it.
I said this is enough went on ebay bought a set of new efi mani's from Ford I tell you I couldn't tell the difference performance wise from headers to manifolds. I do like the manifolds I had the exhaust shop clear the starter so im happy with it.
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Does anyone know if there will be any clearance issues with the efi manifolds on an e150? The alternator bracket curves around the log style manifold and I'm not sure if the efi manifolds would clear it.
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That's the alternator bracket from my original log manifold setup. There weren't any fitment issues.
As for going into a van, I don't see why not, but I've never done it.
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I had the hedman header when I first did my rebuild they were great looked cool but developed too much heat under the hood it even travel into the cab I went through two starters I'm sure the header had a big effect on that
I said this is enough went on ebay bought a set of new efi mani's from Ford I tell you I couldn't tell the difference performance wise from headers to manifolds. I do like the manifolds I had the exhaust shop clear the starter so im happy with it.
I said this is enough went on ebay bought a set of new efi mani's from Ford I tell you I couldn't tell the difference performance wise from headers to manifolds. I do like the manifolds I had the exhaust shop clear the starter so im happy with it.
It will be nice to use the O2 sensor bungs that are oem on the efi's. That will make tuning a carb swift and easy. It would be interesting to find flow numbers for the Hedman and efi's. Certainly the Clifford header flows more with the 1 5/8" tubes, as opposed to the 1 1/2" of the Hedman.
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Really? You went through 2 starters? I've had mine on for 3+ years and have not changed 1 starter. However, I did buy a new one before I installed the header.
It will be nice to use the O2 sensor bungs that are oem on the efi's. That will make tuning a carb swift and easy. It would be interesting to find flow numbers for the Hedman and efi's. Certainly the Clifford header flows more with the 1 5/8" tubes, as opposed to the 1 1/2" of the Hedman.
It will be nice to use the O2 sensor bungs that are oem on the efi's. That will make tuning a carb swift and easy. It would be interesting to find flow numbers for the Hedman and efi's. Certainly the Clifford header flows more with the 1 5/8" tubes, as opposed to the 1 1/2" of the Hedman.
I would love to try the wideband my carb is currently fuel fouling the plugs I talked to one of my friends who rebuilt my carb he said we would have to probably change the jets on it or I had in mind on getting a Holley 465cfm
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Abandonedbronco, your alternator bracket is different from mine. I read that the bracket needs to modified or replaced on Econolines when using aftermarket headers, so I was wondering if the same is true for the efi manifolds.
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From: Bakersfield,CA
Prefer the EFI manifolds because it creates more back pressure for added torque.
The truck is used for hauling heavy loads. Use dual 1-1/4" tail pipe.
If looking for HP rather than torque would have a V8 302 rather than a L6 300.
The truck is used for hauling heavy loads. Use dual 1-1/4" tail pipe.
If looking for HP rather than torque would have a V8 302 rather than a L6 300.
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From: summerfield florida
Did you mean 2 1/4" or was 1 1/4" correct? Just curious....jack