Tranny Problem's!
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Tranny Problem's!
Alright guys I've been kicking myself in the *** over this for the past week, I had just gotten home from work and as I turned my truck off my foot slipped off the clutch pedal before the motor stopped turning over completely and it lunged forward, I just said crap and went on in the house. I went out to go to work the next morning and It will not go in any gear. I won't even go over far enough to act like it would go into first or second but will go everywhere else but never in gear. Can someone please help me? I've been told that it sounds like a shift fork but I've not had time to piddle with it yet but plan on it this weekend. If it is a shift fork how hard is it to change?
It's a 91 5.0 HO with a 5 speed M5R2 Tranny.
It's a 91 5.0 HO with a 5 speed M5R2 Tranny.
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Does the clutch pedal go to the floor? or you can't push it down just solid pedal?
If not sounds like the push rod jumped out of its hole in the back of the master cylinder not allowing you to disengage the clutch.
If it does go to the floor try putting it in a gear first then start it, see if it returns to normal.
It won't have a "fork", it'll have the internal slave cylinder type arraignment.
If not sounds like the push rod jumped out of its hole in the back of the master cylinder not allowing you to disengage the clutch.
If it does go to the floor try putting it in a gear first then start it, see if it returns to normal.
It won't have a "fork", it'll have the internal slave cylinder type arraignment.
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the transmission has internal gear shift forks not dis agreeing with you and you are right about the slave but could be either seems to me like the clutch not dis engaging is the issue usually when you get a bent fork not all the time but usually the shift lever will be froze did you leave it in neutral or in gear and it just sounds this way not saying for you to rip things apart until you know what needs to be done
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the transmission has internal gear shift forks not dis agreeing with you and you are right about the slave but could be either seems to me like the clutch not dis engaging is the issue usually when you get a bent fork not all the time but usually the shift lever will be froze did you leave it in neutral or in gear and it just sounds this way not saying for you to rip things apart until you know what needs to be done
Jumped clutch while in gear should have hand no effect on shifter fork there would be no strain on it at the time, dumped clutch while fully in gear stalled motor as I understand it.
Yea be different perhaps if stated was between gears at that moment, was going for first or reverse and right at the moment slid foot off pedal but he didn't word it as such.
Sounds like to me popped pedal all the way to the top no resistance against its return spring and while solidly in gear, sounds like its gonna all be clutch related at least until hear more.
The clutch push rod has a retainer holding its forward end into the rear of the master cylinders piston, it retains the rod fairly tough however the sudden and full force of the pedal returning to top could easily be enough to rip it out allow it to drop out.
For the most part posted to ask for clarification, same time speculate using what had been given thus far.
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Does it go into gear with the engine off?
Shift forks on the Mazda trans are easy peasy. You can do the whole job from inside the cab though the access cover without pulling the trans.
Shift forks on the Mazda trans are easy peasy. You can do the whole job from inside the cab though the access cover without pulling the trans.
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Ya don't damage a shift fork dumping the clutch while in gear there isn't any load on them at the time. No load unless you had your hand on the shifter when it happen?
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It feel's like it's in a bind when I try to pull it to the left towards 1st-2nd but it moves freely from side to side in the 3rd-4th and 5th-Reverse positions, but when i try to push it into the gear slot it jams up.
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Sounds like its stuck in two gears at the same time, first and reverse? first and third first and fifth (trying to recall shift pattern).
If your shifter was pretty loose and worn the condition be more likely to occur, worn bushing allow movement of more than a single gate where a nice tight shifter would prevent that from happening. Opposing gates are blocked from moving while one is in use kinda thing.
When you jumped the clutch truck lurched forward suddenly and hard it allowed gear to slide back worn, badly worn shifter not preventing it from doing so.
Speculating yet naturally but sounds like the clutch is fine its linkage didn't drop out, yea leaves the trans the shifter as the problem.
Will the truck roll freely clutch in or out?
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Yes it rolls freely, no problem there. I never had any trouble out of the tranny until this happened, no searching for gears or sloppy shifting. I put a clutch kit, slave cylinder, clutch master cylinder, and new clutch lines in it back in November.
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Pull the shifter out of the top and look at the gates should be all in a straight line or only one out of line, manual line them up then put the shifter back in. You'd also be able to shift it at that point, once all three gates where put back in neutral position, you'd be able to move each one forward and back in turn get each gear.
Then try with the shifter in place should only need couple bolts back in to know if it corrected the problem (if noticeably jacked off and out of line when the shifter was removed), couple bolts back in try it see if ability to get each gear has been restored. If so put the remaining couple bolts in button it back up, if not and or you couldn't manually get a gear shifter out, you're gonna have to take the top cover off and see what the deal is.
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